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Meh, was pretty much a non-issue to begin with. Considering you could simply substitute it with the SATA 3 ports, or, simply buy a cheap SATA II controller card.
Only two SATA3 ports and cheap controller cards are quite inferior to the SATA2 ports on the Intel PCH.

If the same problem cropped up on my board, it would make the board next to useless for me.
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not really. why compare a phenom II when the chart has an Athlon II X4 as the top ringer? that chart doesn't even factor in real world sales prices. I got my Athlon II 630 for $40 bucks after california tax. $40 dollars. Find me a processor with that kind of performance per dollar ratio, Sandy Bridge included. Good luck.

If you're unfamiliar with how it performs, look at Athlon II 630 at cpubenchmark.net. It does 4500 after a light OC (3.5ghz). 4500 passmark for $40 FINAL price.

A hot sale price for an i7 920 is $200 SUBTOTAL. you calculate the ratio, it's not even close. the i7 is stronger, no question, but it trails behind in performance per dollar spent.

it's amazing that AMD fans are able to admit that Intel's best is stronger than AMD's best (at the moment at least) and I myself admit this all the time. And yet Intel fanboys cling on and are in denial that AMD is value. Blinded by their own fanboyism they are unwilling to admit the truth.
I paid $0 for my i5. ZERO. Beat that. (seriously. I paid nothing. ..my gf bought it for me.) Show me an AMD CPU that can beat -that- price/performance ratio.

... I hope you see how flawed that argument is. Next time, try only comparing retail prices. Mentioning a price not available to the general public is disingenuous.

What's amazing is how so many people can't accept that when something is faster, it's faster. Period. It doesn't matter how much you paid for it.

OT: Since I realized the ports failing didn't affect the attached hardware, I've been wondering why they didn't just dump them all off on OEMs. Are stores like Newegg going to be offering sales of the old mobos? Or did Intel take them all back?

Blameless: In this one instance, I'd be willing to wager a Marvel controller/cheap controller card would be superior to the onboard SATA 3.0 gb/s controller on the Intel PCH. Just this once.
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I paid $0 for my i5. ZERO. Beat that. (seriously. I paid nothing. ..my gf bought it for me.) Show me an AMD CPU that can beat -that- price/performance ratio.

... I hope you see how flawed that argument is. Next time, try only comparing retail prices. Mentioning a price not available to the general public is disingenuous.

What's amazing is how so many people can't accept that when something is faster, it's faster. Period. It doesn't matter how much you paid for it.

OT: Since I realized the ports failing didn't affect the attached hardware, I've been wondering why they didn't just dump them all off on OEMs. Are stores like Newegg going to be offering sales of the old mobos? Or did Intel take them all back?

Blameless: In this one instance, I'd be willing to wager a Marvel controller/cheap controller card would be superior to the onboard SATA 3.0 gb/s controller on the Intel PCH. Just this once.
don't be an ahole.

the athlon II is indeed a monster of a chip considering the price. easily the best bang for your buck.

my girlfriend recently a desktop back in the summer for 300 bucks that included the athlonII quad and 8 gigs of ram. everything else on the market was significantly more expensive... including intel duel cores.
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Does this mean we can expect 1155 motherboards to be back (much) sooner than originally expected (April)?
No, this is for OEMs.

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Intel was probably afraid of losing money so they decided to resume shipment of their flawed motherboards. Hmm...
Nope, Intel is not stupid and does not make $1B decisions without thinking it through. This was part of their plan. They probably want to complete validation to ensure nothing else was wrong.

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Meh, was pretty much a non-issue to begin with. Considering you could simply substitute it with the SATA 3 ports, or, simply buy a cheap SATA II controller card.
True, but more than 2 ports will add cost for OEMs where margins can be thin already.

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OT: Since I realized the ports failing didn't affect the attached hardware, I've been wondering why they didn't just dump them all off on OEMs. Are stores like Newegg going to be offering sales of the old mobos? Or did Intel take them all back?

Blameless: In this one instance, I'd be willing to wager a Marvel controller/cheap controller card would be superior to the onboard SATA 3.0 gb/s controller on the Intel PCH. Just this once.
The manufacturers are taking the old mobos back and just swapping the new chipset in once Intel provides them.

The onboard controller will outperform 3rd party controllers probably until it really degrades.
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AMD Blasphemer! BULLDOZER!!!



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agree and +rep : )

however i really do hope amd catches up with intel on the high end market.

just imagine a market where amd and intel go head to head in the high end market and prices are just being cut left and right : ).
This.

I'm not gonna lie, I'm much more in favor of Intel than AMD. but I would love to See AMD pull out the stops and actually make Intel sweat. Intel's high end price schemes are getting a bit too out of control.

And what's with there STILL not being USB 3.0 or SATA 3 native? Considering the timing of things with the 55 gen and USB/SATA 3 I can see why it wasn't implemented, but this marks a full tick tock without native integration of these technologies. For shame. They're fully backwards compatible! Just do it already.

but on topic: I was never concerned with this issue. It seemed pretty minor to me to begin with. My understanding was that it was totally circumvented with an add-on raid card or a 3rd party SATA3 controller on board as they bypassed the SATA bus by tapping in using PCI-Express. Not to mention it was sporadic, not immediate, and as far as I can tell, fully covered under warranty anyway. I'll give them kudo's on biting the bullet and working so quickly to fix it though. Then again, no revised parts till april as I understand it? Maybe it's a bit too soon to be patting them on the back lol.
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It sounds like they are selling them to Dell, ect. for their systems that won't be affected by the bug... which means newegg will be out of stock until the fixed ones ship.
Dell's had lots of legal battle experience with selling defective hardware.
http://www.google.com/search?q=dell+...28c4946c5db268
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Everyone knows the worlds biggest production Bulldozer is the KOMATSU D575A-3SD, don't they?! LOL

I wonder if AMD sometimes regret calling there new architecture, Bulldozer?
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Doesn't it strike anyone as odd, that Intels QA only found the problem after they'd sold enough defective mobos and cpu's to cover the recall, since once sold you're locked in the returns loop.
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I notice that chart was made before Sandy Bridge was released.
And the performance per $ you get from sandy surely dominates your little chart.
$180 ( 2500k ) for a cpu thats more than x2 as fast as a 4 ghz Phenom II x4..
Its pretty clear who the real winner is
Yeah but it's just a bee's willy under double the price, but I know what your saying.
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