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Originally Posted by _GTech View Post
That's RIDICULOUS!!

As if this stuff is made of liquid gold or something, people need to get real...

You can't market a product that cost $300+ a gallon even..

Even $200 a gallon is too steep, $40-$100 would be reasonable...

Bottom line = FAIL...
Specialty chemicals and parts are expensive and cause sticker shock to average consumers.

That said.... This was never intended for consumer use. This is for industrial use where they will pay $300 per gallon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novec_1230
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It is generally used in situations where water from a fire sprinkler would damage expensive equipment or where water-based fire protection is impractical, such as museums, banks, clean rooms and hospitals.

Edited by DuckieHo - 2/10/11 at 1:48pm
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Would you ever have to refill it? It sounded like when it evaporates it gets recycled back into the case.
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ok talked to my local 3m distributor. the stuff will evap unless it is kept under pressure, how ever the evap rate is not to bad, but would be to costly to run like they did in the video for any decent length of time. reason being at its boiling point with no pressure only part of it will condense back, the other will simply evap away.

as for condensation, it will slowly pull water out of the air when recirculating from liquid to gas and back unless under pressure.

i can get it shipped for 27.45 a LB. 10LB min and in 10LB steps. so one gallon [10LB] is 274.50 ....
post #84 of 133
I emailed one of the distributors from their site:
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Hi there,

Current price for a gallon is $426.10.

Sincerely,
Kai Hui, B.Com
Sales and Marketing Manager
tel: 604-888-3084 x.125
fax: 604-888-7754
www.mgchemicals.com
From: beers
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:51 AM
To: info@mgchemicals.com
Subject: 3m Novec 7000 Information

Hello,

Was just curious on the $/gal for this solution.

Thanks.
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In that case, I believe you should make a die-cast acrylic tank, or even better, a die-cast copper tank with glass windows, to house your computer.

Fins into the copper tank at a pretty high density, and then one big slow fan underneath the tank blowing air through the fins.


If you have the availability of the stuff, it can result on a pretty efficient, silent, and e-peen favorable cooling solution

I might aswell design the die-cast tank just for the lulz
   
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I emailed one of the distributors from their site:
wow.. talk about mark up.. look at my post above your post.
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I am happy a few people in here know about this and understand the costs involved. For the foreseeable future the cost of things like flourinert and novec are going up due to supply constraints from industrial users. Expect to see $300+ per 11lbs ( basically a gallon, it's how they sell flourinert anyways). 3M's Belgium plant is having a hard time keeping up the supply currently.

How do I know? We use this in things like thermoshock chambers and Advantest testers (T5593,5585/6, and the like) just to name a few. The chiller on a T5586 is the size of a fridge and takes gallons and gallons to fill.




Edited by Forsaken_id - 2/11/11 at 6:13am
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+1 NICE

I doubt it will make it to main stream. By the time it is that cheap, our CPU's wont have heat issues.
Around Moore's wall of 14-12nm...

Then again What do I know of CPU's 5 years from now.
They'll all be wetware and bleed if you overclock them.
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a finned aluminum case could probably lower temps a fair bit
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well this stuff can be really cooled down. i would say use a phaze change system like a fridge setup, but have the coils at the bottom of the tank, then cool the liquid to sub zero before using it at all. that way you could keep the liquid below its boiling point, thus little evap. but i would also use a heat sink on the cpu to lesson the boiling effect by spreading the cooling surface over a bigger area.
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