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Okay, so I've got a brand new system, and I've been testing, mucking around with it, etc. but I've noticed that whenever I fully load my gfx card, in say, Furmark, I get a sinusoidal whining coming from the speakers. That only happens under full load.

The reason why this is posted here, and not in the gfx card section, is that my on-board sound was also having some issues, with a faint, high pitched noise coming from the speakers. I've hooked up my earphones to the front too, which is connected to the motherboard, and the noise is actually worse through those, instead of the speakers. My guess is it's my PSU (Thermaltake Litepower 700w (yes I know it's overkill)). Is there any way other than taking back my PUS to test this? And yes, I've put magnetic cylinders (kills EMI) around all possible power cables/speaker leads, and no, this didn't happen on my laptop, which would indicate something is too close to something else.

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Okay, so I've got a brand new system, and I've been testing, mucking around with it, etc. but I've noticed that whenever I fully load my gfx card, in say, Furmark, I get a sinusoidal whining coming from the speakers. That only happens under full load.

The reason why this is posted here, and not in the gfx card section, is that my on-board sound was also having some issues, with a faint, high pitched noise coming from the speakers. I've hooked up my earphones to the front too, which is connected to the motherboard, and the noise is actually worse through those, instead of the speakers. My guess is it's my PSU (Thermaltake Litepower 700w (yes I know it's overkill)). Is there any way other than taking back my PUS to test this? And yes, I've put magnetic cylinders (kills EMI) around all possible power cables/speaker leads, and no, this didn't happen on my laptop, which would indicate something is too close to something else.

Any help will be aptly rewarded
I guess man what I would do is email Thermaltake and ask them b/c ur right its complete overkill and should have no issues with one 460 let alone 2 or 3 of them so yeah email them and ask them (my friend emailed them once and got a response back in about an hour) man hope this helps
    
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Those ferrite beads you are using are for keeping the wires from emitting EMI. They don't help with any filtering of the signals going through the wires.

A solution to your sound issues is to use a PCI, PCIe or USB sound card. IIRC USB sound cards actually do the best job of not picking up system sounds.

The reason for this is the onboard sound probably shares a ground plane with everything else in the motherboard, so it picks up system sounds. Also, front panel wires/ports may not be well shielded. I've even heard noise from front ports that were plugged into the front port headers of a SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium.

The last thing to try would be other speakers or headphones. I've noticed the problem gets more severe with more efficient headphones, so if you use big cans (those big around-the-hear pro headphones) you may not hear the whining at all due to their lower sensitivity. The worst headphones I have for that are my Razer in-ear plugs. They are so sensitive they pick up some scratchy sounds from my Sandisk Sansa E200 MP3 player!

Oh yeah, and if it is only while you run Furmark, feel free to stop running Furmark. It has limited entertainment value and doesn't even help cure cancer, so why bother?
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Those ferrite beads you are using are for keeping the wires from emitting EMI. They don't help with any filtering of the signals going through the wires.

A solution to your sound issues is to use a PCI, PCIe or USB sound card. IIRC USB sound cards actually do the best job of not picking up system sounds.

The reason for this is the onboard sound probably shares a ground plane with everything else in the motherboard, so it picks up system sounds. Also, front panel wires/ports may not be well shielded. I've even heard noise from front ports that were plugged into the front port headers of a SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium.

The last thing to try would be other speakers or headphones. I've noticed the problem gets more severe with more efficient headphones, so if you use big cans (those big around-the-hear pro headphones) you may not hear the whining at all due to their lower sensitivity. The worst headphones I have for that are my Razer in-ear plugs. They are so sensitive they pick up some scratchy sounds from my Sandisk Sansa E200 MP3 player!

Oh yeah, and if it is only while you run Furmark, feel free to stop running Furmark. It has limited entertainment value and doesn't even help cure cancer, so why bother?
Ah, brilliant, I shall return the PSU and buy a sound card at the same time, then if the problem still exists, I know its a problem with the motherboard. If need be, I can return the sound card, should the PSU fix it, but I've a feeling that I'll keep it anyway for extra awesomeness factor

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I guess man what I would do is email Thermaltake and ask them b/c ur right its complete overkill and should have no issues with one 460 let alone 2 or 3 of them so yeah email them and ask them (my friend emailed them once and got a response back in about an hour) man hope this helps

And yeah, I called up the place I bought the system from, and they have another spare, ready for me, so I'll return it now. And yes, it is a MASSIVE overkill, but it was $20 cheaper than a 650w of the same quality (would have preferred a corsair, modular and better quality, but they were hell expensive)

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