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Hello there people,

After couple of months of browsing and googling and checking these forums I finally realized that it would be wise to ask your advice for a couple of questions.

The main question why I am here is "I found a good desktop deal with SPARKLE GTX580 - is that a good or a bad brand name or does it really matter? I've read that EVGAs are good and usually they are abit OCed."

However, in general I would just like to share some findings and wait for your approval/disapproval.

The story in short is that I am a "laptop" guy, last time I had a desktop was a while ago and it was like 600mhz celeron and 64RAM (So yeah - that's while ago). My dad bought me a laptop after this PC and since then I stick to laptops because once in a while I need to change my location, etc.

However, recently I've managed to save up some money and I would like to invest it on a major hardware update. More than one month ago I was looking for a gaming laptop - found some great deals, but then i realized I am in Europe where all the **** cost way more than in USA..........
I found some decent deals in Europe, too.. And then on the verge of buying one my friend (a "desktop" guy) finally talked me into looking for some desktops.

AND HEY! Sounds logical enough - I found some amazing deals way cheaper than the laptop with A LOT more performance.. And since the portability or power consumption aren't really the important factors for the moment I decided to go for a desktop! *applause*

************The Rig******************

So, I am currently located in the Netherlands but after some research I found that the best no name branded gaming desktops for a really good price you can find in Germany and shipping is fairly cheap.

The offer which I am stuck on at the moment is:

CPU.: I7 - 2600k
Mb.: ASUS P8P67 OR Gigabyte GA PH67A-UD3 (You are welcome to advise)
HDD: 1TB 7200rpm
GPU: Sparkle (?) Geforce GTX 580
PSU: 700w BeQuiet
Housing: Cooltek CTK 2 Rev C
Memory: 2x 2GB DDR3 PC1333 (with ASUS mother) OR 4x 2GB DDR3 PC1600 (with Gigabyte mother - slightly more expensive)

This set costs around 1100EURO which is probably around 1600$ and for EUROPE I think this is a really great deal (at least I couldn't find any better offer after researching for a month).

SO, as long as my unexperienced laptoper's opinion counts I only have doubts about motherboards of which neither support Nvidia SLi (for future upgrades) and even if they did, I think 700W might be too little for 2x580s? And whats up with SPARKLE?
HOWEVER, I think for at least a year, I won't need the SLi to play the games on high/max settings 1920*1080 as 2600k overclocks fine on air, what about 580 overclocking?

Anyway you are welcome to comment on anything you like, I will appreciate it!!

So umm... *cool story bro*
And sorry for this major text wall, that's the way I always do it!
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post #2 of 7
Dont' worry man, **** is expensive here in Australia too.

As for Sparkle, I remember that they aren't the best in terms of customer warranty. A couple years back I also remember hearing that their heat shrouds were melting and of the such. Not sure if it was true.

As for the motherboards, just be sure to read up on the SATA thing. It's hard(?) to find P67 motherboards coz they were recalled. The SATA but is not really an issue so either brand would be fine
If anything, and if possible, try to go for the EVGA, ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI cards. The have good warranty and great customer service as mahy wood agree.
I also think the 580 would be a tad overkill, largely depending on what you play.

Your power supply I'm a bit iffy about. It's not that well known of a brand. Wattage is only part of the picture. The amps it carries on the 12V rail is also important. Also: general quality is important.

Everything else looks fine, though.
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post #3 of 7
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Yeah.. I wouldn't go for sparkle even tho I don't know much in this field, but I am buying a complete desktop and anything else's with similar specs price just jump sky high -.-

I play mostly the new MMOs which usually demand quite a lot if fully fully maxed, sometimes do some multi-tasking, but in general I just want to get the best value for my money like everyone.

I don't plan to do any serious overclocking that would require "exotic" cooling system, honestly I am not going to OC anything until I see the need for it, and probably gonna try to get what's max on air then.

It's just always the same case - appetite grows while eating - I find one deal, then I find better, and the standards just keep growing!

About the SATA stuff I have no idea but what is says - the Gigabyte board is:
2x SATA3 6GB/s / 4x SATA2
2x USB Port
1x PCI Express 2.0 x16,
1x PCI Express 2.0 x4 Crossfire
3x PCI Express x1
2x PCI

Asus:
4x SATA3 6GB/s / 4x SATA2
4x USB2.0 Port, 1x USB3.0 Port
1x PCI Express 2.0 x16,
1x PCI Express 2.0 x4
2x PCI Express x1
3x PCI
Edited by Juozias - 2/8/11 at 4:41am
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post #4 of 7
That Sparkle GPU is probably a ref card, so the only question is do you fell ok with their support.

Like someone else said, get a better PSU. If you can get something like an 850HX. If you wont SLi in the future you can look at other options for sure. Say a 750tx or other PSU's in that price.

For a MOBO if you Gigabyte get a UD4. I know that the UD3 on the 1156 did not support SLI and had some other issues. Probably the same here. My single biggest mistake when I build my first computer was skimping on the MOBO. Everything you upgrade, use, plug-in, or run works off the MOBO and its features.
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Straight answer is brand is not important outside of North America as these are mostly reference cards and warranty is very different. It boils down to the quality of the warranty you can obtain locally.

EVGA for example is probably worse for warranty in say Aus and NZ for example than say Asus or Gigabyte as there are dedicated manufacture service agents locally. If the retailer dissapers its still very easy to get Asus or Gigabyte warranty locally. Other brands you "may" have to jump through far more hoops to get the manufacture to do something.
Edited by Battleneter - 2/8/11 at 12:23pm
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It would be possible to go for something like this for similar price (around 1100EURO):

CPU: 2500k
MOBO: ASrock P67 extreme4
GPU: Gigabyte GTX580
PSU: Corsair TX850W
Housing: Thermaltake V9
Memory: 2x2 or 4x2GB ripjaws 1333mhz (doesn't really matter, because I can add later anyways)
HDD: Seagate baracuda 2x500GB
But I would have to assemble it myself..

So:

1) Hows this build now? Would it be possible to go 580 SLI in the future?
2) Might sound stupid, but is it hard to assemble a rig from these components? Is it mostly plug and play or some extreme knowledge is required? :O

Thanks for your replies, this is my first desktop build and I am quite excited
Edited by Juozias - 2/8/11 at 2:19pm
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** Sorry for double posting -.-*
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