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And as we all know, history repeats itself.
Exxactly, Just remind me what the AMD FX chips did to the intel extreme chips, Kicked there little backsides into submission.

AMD's time is coming around again after a good few years of intel domination.
   
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post #22 of 53
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Exxactly, Just remind me what the AMD FX chips did to the intel extreme chips, Kicked there little backsides into submission.

AMD's time is coming around again after a good few years of intel domination.
Very true - and those chips cost what $1000?

If history does repeat itself, don't expect BD to be priced cheaply either.

Plus, it won't be much longer before Intel regains the performance crown thereafter. *cough* Ivy Bridge's 6 - 8 core processors.
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post #23 of 53
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Plus, it won't be much longer before Intel regains the performance crown thereafter. *cough* Ivy Bridge's 6 - 8 core processors.
Very true - and those chips cost what $2000?
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Very true - and those chips cost what $2000?
Nah, $500 - $700 for 6 cores
$1000 for 8 cores

Not like that's a deal or anything, but people are already paying $1000 for the 980x, and people HAVE paid $1000 for AMD's FX chips, so.....

For our sake, I do hope BD delivers to keep prices reasonable.

Although I may come across as an Intel "fanboy", I've had just as many AMD rigs over the years, and wouldn't hessitate to put together a BD rig if the performance delivered.
Edited by 2010rig - 2/13/11 at 10:06pm
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Exxactly, Just remind me what the AMD FX chips did to the intel extreme chips, Kicked there little backsides into submission.

AMD's time is coming around again after a good few years of intel domination.
We already saw some random performance estimates for Bulldozer and it said it's like 50% faster than a quad core Nehalem. What about a quad core Sandy Bridge?

AMD just doesn't have the power to do what they need to do. They try, and even with 6 physical cores they couldn't trump Intel's lowest end i7. Now they magically think that with a die shrink and another pair of cores that they can unseat the new king, Sandy Bridge? I wouldn't hold your breath, you may end up suffocating.
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Btw - JF-AMD has confirmed the following:

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Whatever that thing was, it did not come from amd.
That is in regards to the Turkish website that claimed 50% gains over the 950 and the 1090T.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/pa...83_28_100.html

Bulldozer has its work cut out for itself, just like AMD didn't foresee the 580 and 570 when they released their 69xx series, I doubt AMD saw Sandy Bridge coming either, I think it will most likely match Bloomfield.
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Fanboy arguments are fanboy.
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Fanboy arguments are fanboy.
Thanks for that amazing input.
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post #29 of 53
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We already saw some random performance estimates for Bulldozer and it said it's like 50% faster than a quad core Nehalem. What about a quad core Sandy Bridge?

AMD just doesn't have the power to do what they need to do. They try, and even with 6 physical cores they couldn't trump Intel's lowest end i7. Now they magically think that with a die shrink and another pair of cores that they can unseat the new king, Sandy Bridge? I wouldn't hold your breath, you may end up suffocating.
Only time will tell as official benches are out. While it is definitely good to be skeptical of BD, I also hope AMD will come around strong and surprise everyone. Fierce competition means everyone wins.

Also BD is supposed to be a new architecture from AMD and should be radically different/faster than the Phenom IIs, similar to how the Core i7s were a huge jump from the Core 2 chips. It's not as simple as just a die shrink and adding 2 more cores. And IIRC the new BD "8-core" is not really full 8-cores like previous chips. I think it's 4 modules with each module have 2 "cores" that's not a really full core but some kind of dedicated integer cores.

It'll definitely be interesting to see how AMD's new stuff will stack up but I wouldn't count AMD out of the fight just yet.
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post #30 of 53
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Thanks for that amazing input.


hahaha, legendary.

Bulldozer has to be really good and have some sweet features, they have been toying with it for years.

It will match Sandy Bridge and offer something innovative no doubt. It will be priced similar to SB if not a bit less which will suck in buyers, they will release an FX chip for hardcore users which will be the best chip on the market for a short while, and before you know it everyone is strutting Bulldozer rigs. If AMD play it right and if Bulldozer is decent enough it can really take a bit back from Intel.

I will be planning on a bulldozer rig, but if it falls on it's face I will be looking at an Ivy Bridge rig in the future.
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