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Originally Posted by PanicProne View Post
And the Sandy Bridge hate still goes on... Really?

What's the matter with all this people? It's like Sandy Bridge killed all their families or something.

GET OVER IT. It's faster and better than LGA 1366.
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Does anyone have any ideas on the pricing of ivy bridge?
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Ignoring all evidence that the 2600k does compete, despite being $780 cheaper, then you are correct, the 2600k doesn't compete.

2600k v. 980x is essentially K8 v. Netburst all over again.
Man, why do people keep bringing this up? Is that all you have to fall back on when you have nothing left? Yeah, the 2600k is far better value than a 980x, but we're not talking about price : performance here.

The 980x will trounce a 2600k when both CPU's are fully utilised. The 2600k wins in everything else that uses 4 cores or less.

It's extremely simple... SB is on average 10-20% faster clock for clock than Bloomfield. Gulftown with two extra cores is obviously going to provide much more than a 20% boost, no?
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AMD said 50% faster than current AMD cpu's, the i7-950 thing came from the net.
50% faster isn't going to cut it.
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50% faster isn't going to cut it.
Core i7 is 10% faster clock for clock than Phenom II (When you have a quad with no HT vs a quad with no HT), SB is about 20% faster than that clock for clock and IB is a direct die shrink of SB, meaning 10%-5% clock for clock is likely, so I'd say its enough.
    
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lol.
Agreed. I loled also.
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Well, in all fairness, the only LGA-1366 CPUs that stand up to Sandy Bridge at all are the 970 and 980. Even then, you're going to get 4.2-4.4Ghz out of the Gulftown, but 4.6-5GHz out of SB. Yes, Gulftown will still be faster in some heavily threaded tasks, but there is no quest that SB is a significantly better value (or would have been/will be, if not for the in ability to get a non-defective board at this point).

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Core i7 is 10% faster clock for clock than Phenom II (When you have a quad with no HT vs a quad with no HT), SB is about 20% faster than that clock for clock and IB is a direct die shrink of SB, meaning 10%-5% clock for clock is likely, so I'd say its enough.
A direct die shrink wouldn't make it any faster clock-for-clock, there has to be some minor improvements beyond that to account for such a change.

Gulftown was slighly faster than Bloomfield (core-for-core) because of new instructions, some tweaks, and 50% more cache, not because of the dieshrink itself.
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Well, in all fairness, the only LGA-1366 CPUs that stand up to Sandy Bridge at all are the 970 and 980. Even then, you're going to get 4.2-4.4Ghz out of the Gulftown, but 4.6-5GHz out of SB. Yes, Gulftown will still be faster in some heavily threaded tasks, but there is no quest that SB is a significantly better value (or would have been/will be, if not for the in ability to get a non-defective board at this point).



A direct die shrink wouldn't make it any faster clock-for-clock, there has to be some minor improvements beyond that to account for such a change.

Gulftown was slighly faster than Bloomfield (core-for-core) because of new instructions, some tweaks, and 50% more cache, not because of the dieshrink itself.
The board thing depends, what if I only have an SSD and a normal HDD? I wouldn't be affected by the bug.

Generally Intel does small optimizations that improves the IPC 5%-10% when they shrink the die of a chip, the only performance improvements coming from IB will be due to those and the addition of more cores.
    
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Hmmmm... a move due to AMD's Bulldozer or Intel's chipset issue?



Ivy Bridge is due this year....
Good question. I think its probably both here.

With ivy bridge this year, I think early adopters are going to be burned pretty hard with sand bridge. Especially with the chipset issue. I want to upgrade to a new intel sysatem, but I can't justify getting a sandy bridge processor with ivy bridge offering so much and coming so soon.
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