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Keep reading through the posts...





You're also forgetting that in a year, I could throw my 2600k SB chip up for sale on OCN or even eBay for ~$250 easily, and grab the IB.
Who said I was forgetting that? And why are you quoting yourself and telling yourself that? Self assurance? ROFL
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So much hate on these boards lately
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Ok ok...lets get this straight, SB is not a coverall, and does NOT beat the crap out of everything despite having a gpu on board and being able to crunch numbers pretty darn quick...this is not ripping the pants off of a 6-core proc with a discrete GPU solution. Ivy Bridge, MAYBE. What we are looking at with the Intel Tick-Tock is just a great change to what you can put on the die. So when Haswell and its 16nm die-shrunk Rockwell comes out, you can expect another great change to how the computer works. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with "DDR4". So to ride this Sandy/Ivy train is ok i guess, but it will be downtrodden when Haswell comes on whatever sockey that decides to come out on.

I'm cool with sandybridge, but not cool with being limited to how much graphics processing i will be able to do; i would have to upgrade my proc to upgrade my gpu performance? Come on man...especially if i want to overclock my GPU, i'm not risking frying the whole CPU to squeeze a little juice out of the On-die GPU. I would rather fry a $500 card than a $300 proc/graphics controller.

Haswell will be my next Big Sig Rig because of DDR4. So far, Sandybridge doesn't accomplish that, and neither does IB from the looks of it.
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Ok ok...lets get this straight, SB is not a coverall, and does NOT beat the crap out of everything despite having a gpu on board and being able to crunch numbers pretty darn quick...this is not ripping the pants off of a 6-core proc with a discrete GPU solution. Ivy Bridge, MAYBE. What we are looking at with the Intel Tick-Tock is just a great change to what you can put on the die. So when Haswell and its 16nm die-shrunk Rockwell comes out, you can expect another great change to how the computer works. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with "DDR4". So to ride this Sandy/Ivy train is ok i guess, but it will be downtrodden when Haswell comes on whatever sockey that decides to come out on.

I'm cool with sandybridge, but not cool with being limited to how much graphics processing i will be able to do; i would have to upgrade my proc to upgrade my gpu performance? Come on man...especially if i want to overclock my GPU, i'm not risking frying the whole CPU to squeeze a little juice out of the On-die GPU. I would rather fry a $500 card than a $300 proc/graphics controller.

Haswell will be my next Big Sig Rig because of DDR4. So far, Sandybridge doesn't accomplish that, and neither does IB from the looks of it.
What?

You DO know that you CAN use a dedicated GPU with Sandy Bridge, right? I mean, why wouldn't you?

Is everyone drunk today?
Edited by PanicProne - 2/8/11 at 11:11am
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Who said I was forgetting that? And why are you quoting yourself and telling yourself that? Self assurance? ROFL
... doesn't anyone read?

I wasn't responding to myself nor you... I was showing Gigalisk those posts.
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Ivy Bridge = What Sandy Bridge SHOULD have been...

I HOPE nobody buys Sandy Bridge, if they do, they obviously didn't do their research!
What are you talking about?

There is nothing wrong with Sandy Bridge.

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I'll be going from Intel Core i5-750 to AMD 8 Core Zambezi thanks but no thanks Sandy Bridge Fans...

I wonder how fast those Sandy Bridge fans will flock to Bulldozer once they realize the viable & realizable improvements the new AMD Bulldozer CPUs have over SB & Ive CPUs..

You can rant and rave about SB this SB that all you want, and even talk about Ive, but it's not even in the same league as Bulldozer, but I suppose you are going to have to wait to see that for yourself, as no amount of words would convince you otherwise..

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I'm NOT saying Ive Bridge won't be a viable choice, but lets get real here most Enthusiast want THE BEST in most cases...

Or did I did miss a memo somewhere?
You missed a hell of a lot more than a memo.

Even the most optimistic estimates of Bulldozer performance don't suggest it will be more than a moderate improvement over Sandy Bridge.

Even if it does turn out to be that good, it's not here yet.

Also, enthusiast implies someone who is enthusiastic about something, nothing else.
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What?

Is everyone drunk today?
I think they are.

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I'll be going from Intel Core i5-750 to AMD 8 Core Zambezi thanks but no thanks Sandy Bridge Fans...

I wonder how fast those Sandy Bridge fans will flock to Bulldozer once they realize the viable & realizable improvements the new AMD Bulldozer CPUs have over SB & Ive CPUs..

You can rant and rave about SB this SB that all you want, and even talk about Ive, but it's not even in the same league as Bulldozer, but I suppose you are going to have to wait to see that for yourself, as no amount of words would convince you otherwise..
I think I'll pass on bulldozer, just think though they will probably use that architecture for 4 more years and try to play catch up again when they have fallen behind in the performance market. Also I dont care for what seems to be AMD's solution to processor performance "We are falling behind, throw more cores at it", this is my first intel rig but I like their tick-tock pacing with new improved cpu solutions. I am interested though in AMD's sff and mobile solutions though.
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What?

You DO know that you CAN use a dedicated GPU with Sandy Bridge, right? I mean, why wouldn't you?

Is everyone drunk today?
I am full aware of that, but if you get a discrete GPU, you might as well get a regular 1366/1156 instead of getting SB. AFAIK you cannot use a Discrete GPU and the on-die GPU in tandem, its one or the other.
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I am full aware of that, but if you get a discrete GPU, you might as well get a regular 1366/1156 instead of getting SB. AFAIK you cannot use a Discrete GPU and the on-die GPU in tandem, its one or the other.
Yes you can, get an H67 board or wait for the other chipset and that will allow you to overclock the cpu and use the on die gpu. Also why would anyone wanna buy less performance for more money?
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I am full aware of that, but if you get a discrete GPU, you might as well get a regular 1366/1156 instead of getting SB. AFAIK you cannot use a Discrete GPU and the on-die GPU in tandem, its one or the other.


Oh really? Why is it better? Are the PCI-E slots more comfortable for the cards? This is just ridiculous.

Ok, I simply give up, because you're either trolling or simply can't grasp reality.

You are totally wrong. Both the H67 and P67 allow you to use a dedicated GPU, but ONLY the H67 chipset allows the use of the IGP, IF you don't want a descrete card.

See? It's people like you that feed this stupid war against LGA 1155.

People who have no idea what they talk about and just blindly hate.
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