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So, i've put together this build and it seems pretty dooable.

DVD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136177

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160

Hard Drives (12)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148413

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128445

Harddrive Cage (2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817994027

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139009

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220537

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103687

RAID Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816115059

FLASHDRIVE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226078


So, total comes out to a shy under $2,000

and with Raid5 it'll come out to a total usable space of a little over 20tb.


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post #22 of 26
My thoughts:

What OS are you intending to use? You almost certainly won't need 4GB for a simple file server.

I wouldn't dream of putting 12 2TB drives into RAID5. You will lose everything if you have 2 drives fail at the same time. Very bad idea - hence why I went for the unRAID option - that way if you have 2 drives fail at the same time you only lose whatever was on the failed drive, rather than everything. And by buying that RAID card you lose the ability to expand at all - I thought that was a goal?

That board is twice the price but offers fewer SATA ports than the one I suggested, at will consume 10-20W more in use - which just costs more to run and cool for no benefit.

Personally I prefer Samsung and WD drives over Seagate also.
post #23 of 26
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Storage Drives:
Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB (multiply to taste)
Those green drives are really slow and the speed is dynamic, so it'll only be fast when it's got nothing on it.

Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB, 5400RPM and runs on a SATA6 chipset so of course, you'd adapt your mobo to accomodate.

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NO! No seagate drives, especially in large quantites. Seagate is a bad brand.
Edited by Reflux - 2/10/11 at 10:07am
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Those green drives are really slow and the speed is dynamic, so it'll only be fast when it's got nothing on it.
I have no idea what your getting at here. What are you trying to say?

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Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB, 5400RPM and runs on a SATA6 chipset so of course, you'd adapt your mobo to accomodate.
All the versions of SATA are compatible, and with mechanical drives you don't need to consider which version each of your components have as it won't make a difference.

And that is also a green drive - so why do you recommend it, but redicule the previous green choice?

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NO! No seagate drives, especially in large quantites. Seagate is a bad brand.
That's going a bit far - they aren't a bad brand (I still run a couple of their SAS drives, and their older drives were great). There current line up is possibly a little suspect though.
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NO! No seagate drives, especially in large quantites. Seagate is a bad brand.
Why do you say this? Some of their consumer-grade drives have experienced issues (7200.11 firmware fiasco) but for the most part they are pretty good. Jump up a tier into their enterprise offerings (Constellation series, etc) and you are looking at some damn solid storage devices.

I am more of a WD man myself but that is just my own preference.
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@Reflux

Those "green" drives you mention (Western Digital Caviar Green) do not have a dynamic rotational speed. The so called "Intellipower" is nothing of the sort, just marketing BS. The drives spin at a constant 5400RPM, like almost every other "green" drive on the market.

No doubt WD were toying with altering the spin speed across models - drives with lower density would spin at 5900RPM or 6200RPM, while drives with higher density would spin at 5200RPM or 5400RPM, therefore all models would achieve a similar level of performance - and the marketing department got hold of the concept, hence the misconception.

One thing that should be mentioned is that Western Digital Caviar Greens do not play nice in RAID. In a parity-based RAID array, TLER is a must on some (perhaps most) RAID controllers, and the Caviar Greens younger than October 2009 (I think) will not allow this to be set. Other drives (Hitachi, Samsung and Seagate) have no issue with TLER.

Other drives have their issues. The Samsung F4s require a critical firmware update before they are put into use. I share your sentiment concerning Seagate; their SATA drives are ropey and I seriously do not trust them - this is from experience, not hearsay. However, I do agree that their older drives were pretty robust, and I hear that their Savvio SAS hard drives are on a different level, totally solid.

I have to admit I've heard bad things about the Constellation ES series though.
Edited by parityboy - 2/10/11 at 6:15pm
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