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Originally Posted by pietro sk View Post
1)if you want unbiased comparisons, anadtech is not the best pick out there

2) nervous? high blood pressure ? pissed-off?

Deep breath, drink cold beer and relax...
I love how you talk about how certain sites are biased yet you clearly are one of the most biased people in this thread. You won't even listen to us when we give repeated examples of why at this time AMD can't compete in the high end desktop market. Also why would any of us be nervous? If bulldozer does great it's great for everyone in both price and pushing both sides to advance further. Not everyone has such a ridiculous bias towards whatever company makes their cpu. And PLEASE stop with that played out excuse, complaining about a sites benchmarks being biased is such a cop out it's not even funny. Every single review at every single site showed the exact same thing and that is sandy bridge destroying phenom II's.
Edited by scyy - 2/17/11 at 7:49pm
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Yah but why is AMD making the bulldozer chips 32 bit instead of 64?
    
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Ignore BallaTheTroll....
Thanks for the advice, this coming from someone who is proving to be more of a troll than anyone in this thread, and your many other BS I mean BD threads, and your constant GO AMD rants that are based on pure speculation and theory, instead of solid facts.

Example:

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I wonder how much DNA & Parallel computing will impact us in the future?

Nevertheless didn't someone just shatter a record with an AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black edt.???

AMD hate mail not accepted here, sorry...

Go back to the Intel fan boards.. where ever they are...

I cannot wait till Bulldozer fires up & we get benches, COME ON!!!!

I cannot wait to stand up in my computer chair, fist raised in the air, screaming YUS YUS YUS!

I'm even more excited when I start analyzing & talking about those Fusion Chips, woooo hooo!


When AMD starts to get more of the market shares from Intel they will have more money to focus on Engineering & Improvements, obviously their former CEO took their focus away from what mattered, WHAT WE THE BUYERS WANT!!!!
More ranting examples?


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Truth to be told, the whole reason I started this article was to give Intel fans a look at AMD, though this doesn't guarantee any results, it may help to steer some of the Intel fans over to the dark side! (Remember the force Luke!)

Corporations are corporations, they want more and more, for less and less, and of course the consumers are no different we want more cores for less, or at least, this is what AMD says we wanted....

If the Bulldozer 8 Core Zambezi CPU delivers even remotely close to 50% over the current CPUs, I will be as happy as a lark, because I KNOW AMD will be VERY competitive in price, and THAT is where they will win and win big!

AMD has clearly stated they are going BEAT INTEL IN ALL POINTS! To me, they are going for the THROAT! I'm telling you guys, listen or not, that's your choice, AMD is going to WIN with Bulldozer!

Now, about the have something better to do.....

I do, I will continue to write articles, like them or not, post my thoughts on the overclock.net forums, like them or not, and nothing you can say about the imaginary Bulldozer will persuade me that it's going to suck or NOT compare to Sandy Bridge, I'm very clear in my understanding of their architect and what it WILL bring to the table, and that is my happiness!

Being a gaming programmer & someone who host a game server, I can tell you 8 cores is going to make me VERY VERY Happy.

AMD has definitely BROUGHT IT, just like "The Rock" says, "Just Bring It!", though you can't buy the chip today (a mere 2 months away?), it's real and it's not something anyone is dreaming of, so, if you have something better to say, now is the time to say it..

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Yes, I'm beyond jealous, you got me.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

AMD FTW

I am also VERY jealous of your processor:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/100?vs=88

Can you please point me to where I can get one, so I can downgrade ASAP.
Hi 2010Rig;

Do you always use just sysmarks to do your analysis? If so your analysis is flawed. According to the benchmark (sysmarks) quoted the i7 950 at stock is significant faster than a 1055 at stock. The reliance upon one benchmark introduces bias into the analysis. Different benchmarks give different results. (See attached AIDA64). The 950 is roughly equal to the 1055. The 950 due to the tri channel memory benchmarks dominates the 1055 from a memory performance perspective except for latency as expected.

In addition you are comparing a $294 (950 from egg) to a $140 (955 from egg). A Rational analysis would indicate that the 950 would need twice the performance of a 955 to be equivalent. A better comparison would be a 1090 to a 950 roughly equivalent in cost (199 at egg) vs (199 at microcenter).

Otherwise, the 950 wins some and loses some in comparison to the 1055 at the same speed with HT on. When compiling large multiple module programs the 950 takes more time to compile then either the 1055 or 1090. This is primarily related to having less physical cores. Please note the 950 has 50% more memory than the 1055 (12 vs. 8) in the 1055 comparison reference that are listed in the attachment.

The performance of the 1090 should not be considered as it is not at the same clock. I have attached an AIDA64 report with the reference times. Please disregard the 1090 scores as they are OC. Please compare the reference 950 to the 1055s at the same clock.

The performance of a 2500K and 2600K are faster in the reference AIDA64 benchmarks. Please note that the SBs are not faster when compiling large multiple modules programs. I mentioned this to Balla before and he chose not to perform or list that comparison.

From a productivity (programming) perspective, which may be different than your perspective, the 6 cores offer more value and are cost effective. From a gaming perspective, your choice may be better.



It appears tha the site does not allow file attachment. Hmm see below

AIDA64 Extreme Edition

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Version AIDA64 v1.20.1150
Benchmark Module 2.6.328-x64
Homepage http://www.aida64.com/
Report Type Quick Report
Computer OUTLAW
Generator Kevin
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 6.1.7600 (Win7 RTM)
Date 2011-01-29
Time 17:41


Memory Read - OUTLAW

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Read Speed
Core i7 950 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 16712 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 9912 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 9861 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 9825 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 9611 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 9444 MB/s
Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 8920 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 8844 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3281 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1591 9-9-9-24 CR2 8691 MB/s
Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 8600 MB/s


Memory Write

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Write Speed
Core i7 950 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 13932 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 8382 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 8368 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 8345 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 8225 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 8053 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 6923 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3285 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1593 9-9-9-24 CR2 6795 MB/s
Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 6718 MB/s
Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 6712 MB/s


Memory Copy

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Copy Speed
Core i7 950 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 19197 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3832 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 12779 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 12688 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3831 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 12618 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 12587 MB/s
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 12257 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 11214 MB/s
Phenom II X6 1055T 3280 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1590 9-9-9-24 CR2 11053 MB/s
Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 10828 MB/s
Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 10796 MB/s


Memory Latency

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Latency
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 41.3 ns
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 42.3 ns
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 42.9 ns
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 44.7 ns
Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3834 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 45.2 ns
Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 48.4 ns
Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 50.1 ns
Phenom II X6 1055T 3280 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1060 6-6-6-19 CR1 51.7 ns
Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 52.0 ns
Phenom II X6 1055T 3264 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1583 9-9-9-24 CR2 52.3 ns
Core i7 950 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 53.1 ns
Athlon II X4 635 2900 MHz Asus M2N68-AM Plus nForce7025-630a Ext. Unganged Dual DDR2-804 5-6-6-18 CR2 60.2 ns
Phenom X4 9850 2500 MHz Asus M3N78 Pro GeForce8300 Ext. Ganged Dual DDR2-800 6-6-6-18 CR2 65.6 ns


CPU Queen

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 37255
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 37254
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 37227
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 37221
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 37216
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 36790
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 27725
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3266 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1583 9-9-9-24 CR2 27658
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 22098
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 11111


CPU PhotoWorxx

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 52885
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 35411
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 35250
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 35029
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3833 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 34783
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 33730
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 32920
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 30920
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3281 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1591 9-9-9-24 CR2 30856
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 18829
4x Athlon II X4 635 2900 MHz Asus M2N68-AM Plus nForce7025-630a Ext. Unganged Dual DDR2-804 5-6-6-18 CR2 16713


CPU ZLib

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 162128 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 162122 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 162047 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 161851 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 161754 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 118708 KB/s
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3200 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1557 9-9-9-24 CR2 118242 KB/s
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 114186 KB/s
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 83506 KB/s
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 42005 KB/s


CPU AES

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 63879
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 63857
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 63772
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 63759
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 63748
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 46768
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3256 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1579 9-9-9-24 CR2 46641
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 39444
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 21869
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 10935


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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 3837 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 3836 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 3834 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 3834 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 3832 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3039 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1737 9-9-9-24 CR2 2807 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3282 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1061 6-6-6-19 CR1 2805 MB/s
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3200 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1555 9-9-9-24 CR2 2795 MB/s
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 2011 MB/s
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 1867 MB/s
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 1006 MB/s


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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 14659
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 14658
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 14648
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 14636
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 14633
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3267 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1584 9-9-9-24 CR2 10729
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3243 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1572 9-9-9-24 CR2 10701
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 10688
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 6537
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 3267


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6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 7461
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3828 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 7461
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 7454
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 7453
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 7452
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 5459
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3155 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1530 9-9-9-24 CR2 5458
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 5178
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 3367
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 1684


FPU SinJulia

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core i7 950 HT 3200 MHz Asus Sabertooth X58 X58 Triple DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 4405
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-7-7-20 CR2 3724
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 3724
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 CR2 3720
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24 CR2 3719
6x Phenom II X6 Black 1090T 3840 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 CR2 3719
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3300 MHz Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3 AMD890GX Ext. Unganged Dual DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 CR2 2724
6x Phenom II X6 1055T 3200 MHz MSI 890FXA-GD70 (MS-7640) AMD890FX Unganged Dual DDR3-1557 9-9-9-24 CR2 2713
4x Phenom II X4 B45 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 7-8-7-24 CR1 1949
2x Phenom II X2 545 3000 MHz Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 AMD870 Unganged Dual DDR3-1607 8-8-8-24 CR2 974



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Thank you for spending so much time replying, and you know what I wasn't going to bother to read it because clearly you missed my point. But since you did spend time, I will read it, as it would be rude not to.

My reply was in regards to this:

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I still don't get it, why are there so many intel fanboys in the amd section ? U jealous ? lol
When people post ignorant stuff, they get ignorant replies right back.

What exactly do I have to be jealous about?

I was comparing what my processor can do VS his. If he can dish it, he can take it, right?

Yes, that was ignorant of me, but he did say I was jealous didn't he? These processors are not in the same league in price or performance as shown here in the overall comparison:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/100?vs=88

And that was my point, what exactly do I have to be jealous about?

Clearly, my reply went way over your head, but I thank you for trying to clear it up, you should also read what else I posted ITT. I could care less which company provides the better performance, whether it's Intel or AMD, that's where I'll buy.

Right now, the point is this:

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Altough It's 100% true intel is faster then amd at this point. I'll stop feeding the fanboyism and wait for more info.
He seemed to understand that clearly, why didn't you? Notice I said nothing else to him thereafter? I'm not here to pick fights with anyone, but when people post something in ignorance, they get an ignorant reply back.

Let's have more fun with this though... For those building a NEW Rig today:


Why compare the 950 to the 1090T?

Might as well compare the 1090T ( $199 ) VS the 2500K ( $229 )

6 AMD cores VS 4 Intel Cores, and let's look at the overall picture shall we:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=146

This isn't a fair comparison right? Afterall, we are comparing 6 AMD cores VS 4 Intel cores, but since the difference is only $30, it's fair game. Now, can you make an educated guess as to which is the better processor is for the price? If the 1090T was so great, why does it keep dropping in price so much? ( I bet those performance benchmarks vs. the 2500K have a LOT to do with it )

Which processor is better clock for clock?

Which processor can overclock higher on AIR?

I'm not sure if I counted properly, but in 40 of 42 benchmarks, the 2500K outperformed the 1090T.



I've seen what some 1090T users have to go through around here to hit 5 GHZ, and it ain't pretty. Now you can do 4.5 - 5 GHZ on AIR.

Only the die hard AMD fans will still buy a 1090T right now, to each his own.

Yes, the 1090T has MORE cores which in some cases can be beneficial in certain productivity programs. Heck, some people tried to convince me that since I am video editing the 1090T would be better, and in some cases, yes, it would be, but overall, NOPE.

I had a FULL AMD build in my cart for a full week prior to choosing my sig rig, there must've been a reason why I chose to pay more at the time, right?

I made my purchase based on MY overall needs.

1. I chose the 470 over a 5870 ( My 1st choice ) due to the enhanced CUDA performance in CS5. The 5870 could not provide the performance I was after in CS5.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-bit,2770.html

Plus 1 Nvidia.

2. Now that I went with an Nvidia card, I also wanted the option to SLI in the future. Another minus for AMD, since they don't officially support SLI and you have to hack your motherboard to get it to work... Oh wait, since you CAN run SLI on AMD motherboards, why is AMD robbing me of this option? Another MINUS for AMD.

Why should I have to hack my motherboard to run SLI? I get that they sell graphics cards too, but why is AMD preventing me to do so? Isn't that considered "anti-competitive" the very thing AMD whined about?

Most if not ALL Intel boards support SLI or Xfire.

Minus 2 AMD
Plus 1 Intel.


3. I didn't like AMD's motherboards, mainly because of #2, plus overall I found the 1366 board to be very solid, and I had some nice options there, AMD boards were pretty meh in my view.

Plus 1 Intel.

4. The difference in price of my 1090T build vs the Intel build was under $100, with my $2000 budget, I could afford either or, and Intel just had more pluses going for them.

Even - price didn't matter.

5. As you can see the 950 & 1090T trade blows, while Intel has a slight edge.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/100?vs=146

Plus 1 Intel for overall performance.

6. For gaming, the Intel processors perform better then their AMD counterparts.

Don't take my word for it, but I've seen real world examples of cards being bottlenecked by AMD processors, as well as many benchmarks to back this up.

Quote:
Clearly, AMD's CPUs are holding back performance in Cataclysm compared to Intel's processors.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e,2793-10.html

Plus 1 Intel

In the end, Intel was suited better for my needs, and considering how poorly my previous AMD rig performed, it really made sense to make the switch, and boy do I have NO regrets!

Now, this may not be true for everybody, these are just some of the reasons why it made sense to choose Intel for MY needs and MY budget for this rig over AMD's offerings, but I bet a lot of the people who now have AMD rigs went through a similar thought process and made their choice accordingly.

Most people don't care which company they buy from, so long as they get the best performance for their budget. Most people with AMD rigs have a lower budget to work with, and that's ok.

If BD delivers I will either build a 2nd rig, or upgrade what I have now.

Whew, I need a cig ( or something else ).
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2. Now that I went with an Nvidia card, I also wanted the option to SLI in the future. Another minus for AMD, since they don't officially support SLI and you have to hack your motherboard to get it to work... Oh wait, since you CAN run SLI on AMD motherboards, why is AMD robbing me of this option? Another MINUS for AMD.

Why should I have to hack my motherboard to run SLI? I get that they sell graphics cards too, but why is AMD preventing me to do so? Isn't that considered "anti-competitive" the very thing AMD whined about?

Most if not ALL Intel boards support SLI or Xfire.
Someone who knows for sure correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the reason why AMD boards need a hack to SLI is because Nvidia has some licensing or something similar requiring that AMD would have to pay them before officially being able to support SLI. Maybe I am confused here, but IF that is the case then NVIDIA is the one who should be getting the minus. Nobody wants to pay their competitor.


Anyway, the reason why people keep bring up fanboy is because posts related to the WELL KNOW FACT that Intel is currently WAY faster than AMD for nearly the same price serves no purpose in this thread. As the title suggests this is a BD speculation thread so I fail to see how posts of this nature help further the discussion. Intel currently better than AMD benchmarks = off topic (i.e fanboy rubbing it in) in this thread.
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Ok so, AMD compares the performance of AMD X6 to an Intel X4 (they're both equal in the image), then compare the Intel X4 to an AMD X8 and they're so proud of the x1.5 performance? OMG are you sure this image is from AMD? and not Intel? Or just a fake by some Intel lover?

I know Nº of cores isn't everything but...seriously...
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Someone who knows for sure correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the reason why AMD boards need a hack to SLI is because Nvidia has some licensing or something similar requiring that AMD would have to pay them before officially being able to support SLI. Maybe I am confused here, but IF that is the case then NVIDIA is the one who should be getting the minus. Nobody wants to pay their competitor.


Anyway, the reason why people keep bring up fanboy is because posts related to the WELL KNOW FACT that Intel is currently WAY faster than AMD for nearly the same price serves no purpose in this thread. As the title suggests this is a BD speculation thread so I fail to see how posts of this nature help further the discussion. Intel currently better than AMD benchmarks = off topic (i.e fanboy rubbing it in) in this thread.
The speed of sandy bridge very much plays into this I would think, if anything for a comparison of what AMD needs to try and beat with bulldozer and a decent idea of how much faster clock for clock AMD has to advance from their current offerings. I suppose some of the posts could be considered somewhat off topic.(a couple of my own included) However as I said it is a good benchmark to make comparisons from a performance standpoint.
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