Originally Posted by JF-AMD
Just to clarify on that damn slide, here is what I said:
1. I did not make it
2. It looks like our template, but I can't vouch for it because IF it came from AMD, it did not come from my group.
3. I would not approve a leak.
So the options are:
A. It is an AMD slide that was given under NDA and someone else leaked it
B. Someone outside of AMD made the slide
That is all I have said on this, I have never said it did not come from AMD, only that I couldn't be sure of where it came from.
Now, there is another chart being passed around that has a grey, 3D bar chart with performance. That doesn't look like any slide I have ever seen inside of AMD. But, again, I can't really say, whether it came from AMD as we have ~13K employees and I only have control over my 8-9 people.
Thanks for clearing that up, but actually, this is what you said
, which is exactly what I posted:
So, how is there any discrepancy in my post in reference to the turkish slide, and what JF-AMD wrote?
Maybe I have Mad Photoshop skills, but for those interested, it is in this thread, Page 3, 9th post, at the time of this writing, that post has not been edited, and it has even been quoted by others:
If anyone can find what is being said now vs what was said in that POST, label me a troll with good reason. I merely posted what WAS said. Here's one such post with the QUOTE in place:
I'm not going to bother to reply to the rest of the posts, because clearly it has gone way over your heads, and all you will do is find anything to criticize and label someone as a troll.
I made my decisions to choose Nvidia perfectly clear, funny how no one has replied to this post:
It's not my fault Adobe chose to build Premiere with CUDA's architecture, to optimize its use with the Mercury Playback Engine, my PRIMARY use for my rig is video editing WITH Adobe Premiere, NOT
gaming, so yea, this type of stuff tends to matter to me.
In case you all missed it, here it is again, but perhaps I made this up too, right? It is straight from the article I linked:
In order to harness the power of GPU, Adobe took one step back, though. Unlike the OpenGL effects Adobe was using in Creative Suite 4, resulting in sub-optimal acceleration for some GPUs, Premiere Pro CS5 is being built using nVidia CUDA software architecture. Yes, this singlehandedly gives the Adobe CS5 market to nVidia but given the share of nVidia Quadro boards versus ATI FirePro - we can't say we're surprised.
The reason for this decision wasn't a move akin to "The Way It's Meant To Be Played" affairs such as Batmangate or Assassin's Creed, but something more simpler: Adobe needed a stable software toolkit to work on it and according to Dennis: "The 64-bit native code has been announced and now we bring in NVIDIA CUDA technology to be the icing on the cake and a powerful new engine to squeeze out performance in Premiere Pro. Before I wax philosophic on GPU, let me officially tip my hat to the incredible engineers at Adobe and their work here for the Mercury Playback Engine."
If you are wondering what is the real deal with GPGPU API's, there is a telling tale of why Adobe opted to base its Mercury Engine on nVidia's CUDA language. While AMD will tell you that they're all for open standards and push OpenCL, the sad truth is that the company representatives will remain shut when you ask them about the real status of their OpenCL API - especially if you quote them a lead developer from a AAA software company with 10x more employees than AMD themselves that goes something like this: "I struggled to even get ATI's beta drivers installed and working, it was just problem after problem. Maybe once ATI gets their drivers out of beta and actually allow you to install them then I will have some performance numbers. I mean at this point AMD is so far behind in development tools they are not even worth pursuing right now."
I'll say this one last time, I sure hope that BD spanks Intel's offering, that means lower prices for all of us, it will force Intel to innovate, and if BD is THAT good, I will gladly upgrade to it, and or build a 2nd rig based off BD. Competition is GOOD, we all benefit from it.
As of this moment what we know about BD's actual performance is Zip, Zilch, Nada, until something reliable gets released by AMD themselves, or something with AMD's confirmation, without leaving any room for speculation as seen ITT.Edited by 2010rig - 2/18/11 at 6:30pm