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Pietro it appears some of the poster here do not like facts and do not listen when present different benchmarks. Oh well, show the ineffectivenes of the education system
Can you show some other reliable benchmarks then?

You talk about the ineffectiveness of the education system, and you can hardly put a sentence together within your triple posts.
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The point of using Intel libs is that AMD should provide their own libraries to SW vendors, so they can use those INSTEAD of using Intel's. I bet AMD would ensure that those libraries are optimized for Intel's processors right?

If Intel's libraries provide "buggy" code as you put it, why doesn't AMD step up to the plate and write better libraries?

It's ugly when Intel does something that doesn't benefit the competition, but it's ok for AMD to do it - oh the irony in your statements.
1 - http://developer.amd.com/pages/default.aspx
2 - Crippling performance on competitors products - purposely (intel compiler vs others)
Do you understand it, finally ?


Show any example where AMD cripples competitor products...

Oh, BTW do you remember how nvidia drivers disallow using radeon and geforce cards together ??
Your beloved nVidia is shady, just like your intel..
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Your idea with proper SW which AMD doesn't write or own, you're speculating that it MAY outperform CUDA. You ignored my statements on how far behind AMD is with OpenCL API, and thus it's not even an option.
i posted there a example - oclhashcat..
Another thing comes to my mind, BOINC --> MW@H and CollatzConjecture very good boost on ati hardware...
Or video coding SW..


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Why didn't you comment on the discrepancy in JF-AMD's statement of what he said then, and what he said now? He did claim he NEVER said what he said right? ( Exactly - double standards, as shown in ALL your posts )
He is AMD employee, i´m not. Anyway, this not important because :
-ANYBODY with working eyes and healthy common sense would see - > that turkish slide is fake like sh_t
(really big mess)
edit : vocabulary / word pick errors, unprofessional graphics design
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amd(ati) chipsets dont have sli support, why should they ?
Isn't this what you wrote? By not having SLI support, they are making sure that people with AMD rigs choose AMD graphics cards.

I understand it's the competition. Each company will do what they can to gain an edge over the other. Intel does it, and so DOES AMD. You have shown yourself to be the biggest AMD fanatic here, and having a discussion with you is pretty pointless.

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He is AMD employee, i´m not. Anyway, this not important because :
-ANYBODY with working eyes and healthy common sense would see - > that turkish slide is fake like sh_t
(really big mess)
Tell that to _Gtech and the MANY others who have taken those charts as fact.
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Edit: Forget what I posted here, I've un-subbed from this thread.

I know I offered Kmon server space to upload your findings, but I see no need in continuing this discussion, which no longer has anything to do with "Zambezi"

@Pietro SK - you have proven without a shadow of a doubt that AMD is superior in Desktop processors, and Graphics cards. I'm going to switch over now, because it will benefit me greatly in Adobe Premiere.

Plus, all benchmark sites are rigged and should not be trusted. Only trust what AMD says from here on out, they are truly the BEST and superior in every way.
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Can you show some other reliable benchmarks then?

You talk about the ineffectiveness of the education system, and you can hardly put a sentence together within your triple posts.
Yes, already did to you first post. Look at the title information.

Yeah, isnt that funny consisting my background. Oh well, sometime it really doesnt matter. I never said I write correctly.
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Isn't this what you wrote? By not having SLI support, they are making sure that people with AMD rigs choose AMD graphics cards.

I understand it's the competition. Each company will do what they can to gain an edge over the other. Intel does it, and so DOES AMD. You have shown yourself to be the biggest AMD fanatic here, and having a discussion with you is pretty pointless.
Knowledge is not your strong point...
If it was, you would know , intel kicked out NVIDIA COMPLETELY outta chipset business..

Therefore its intels "duty" to implement sli and xfire in intel chipsets.
(..its impossible buy non intel chipset board -doesnt exist)
---------

Situation is different at AMD (AMD didn´t restrict nvidia chipset business),
as you can see there are solutions : (many nv chipsets for amd boards)
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If somebody urgently needs SLI support , he will pick board with nForce 980
rtfm
Next time, quote whole idea. OK ?
...and please, stop embarrasing yourself
    
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Knowledge is not your strong point...
If it was, you would know , intel kicked out NVIDIA COMPLETELY outta chipset business..

Therefore its intels "duty" to implement sli and xfire in intel chipsets.
(..its impossible buy non intel chipset board -doesnt exist)
---------

Situation is different at AMD (AMD didn´t restrict nvidia chipset business),
as you can see there are solutions : (many nv chipsets for amd boards)

Next time, quote whole idea. OK ?
...and please, stop embarrasing yourself
nvidia chipsets for AMD mobo's are very old and the newest release is just a rebrand of the 780 chipset. They offer far less features compared to the AMD chipsets. Also nvidia has said nothing about making an am3+ chipset so going AMD for bulldozer will force people to get AMD cards if they plan to ever go for a multicard setup.(aside from driver hacking which can cause a bunch of issues)
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nvidia chipsets for AMD mobo's are very old and the newest release is just a rebrand of the 780 chipset.
They offer far less features compared to the AMD chipsets.
...and we should blame amd for what nvidia did with their chipsets, LOL omg!
edit: its nvidias product, not amds
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Also nvidia has said nothing about making an am3+ chipset so going AMD for bulldozer will force people to get AMD cards if they plan to ever go for a multicard setup.(aside from driver hacking which can cause a bunch of issues)
nforce am3+ will come later, like all these before..

yes, nobody said nothing.
that can be good or bad - depending on point of view..

current AMD server chipsets SR5600 are based internally on _890 desktop parts (.. with additional tweaks/features)
after bios update, voila its bd ready.

therefore i think, nvidia will need do only minor tweak to 980a , to make it bd compatible
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Ok, ignore anandtech then. Now explain the dozens of other reviews that showed the exact same results. As I already said complaining about a site being biased is such a cop out it's not even funny. I can guarantee if anandtech showed bulldozer beating SB you would completely change your tune but because it doesn't fit into your current preconceptions about performance you call it biased. Just like for years AMD people would complain about cinebench being biased. Than the 1090t came out and beat the i7's and suddenly it was a totally legit bench, then sandybridge came out and its biased again. It's so ridiculous and you don't even realize it.
i dont care, even if AT shows bigger score on BD than others ==>
it will confirm, they are doing his job WRONG


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next example of "douchebagism treated" reviewer :
http://www.silentpcreview.com/asus-e35m1m-pro
Also their CPU utilization is completely bogus, and the reason being they rely
on the wrong software which reports inaccurate information, and they complain about "worse" results.

And the biggest stupidity of the year award:
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Bobcat CPUs were designed to be simpler, cut-down versions of standard AMD Athlons, with a targeted thermal envelope of 10W or less.
I call it "idiot at work"
Do they know what Fusion/Bobcat is ??




and of course, there are many idiot journalists, they compare efficiency on ITX Fusion boards -
with 1200W PSUs !!!


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Your epeen just shrunk two sizes
Yours has shrunk since you posted in this thread
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Things 24/7 overclocks should remember...

Sandy Bridge is 13-19% clock for clock faster than first gen core series chips.

When compared to the C0 stepping release of the core i series most sandy bridge chips are clocking 1000-1400 MHz higher for day to day overclocking.

The difference between 1156/1366 and 1155 is pretty huge at the end of the day, and it puts a big hurt on AMD because almost nothing is ready for 8 cores.
PROOF?
Just like nothing is ready for 4 cores+HT?
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pie you take fanboy to a new level, grats on that.


First you say its unimportant, then you take the time to add colors and text sizes to state how you feel its better on the BD chips.

I'm not spreading "FUD" English clearly isn't your strong suit, but I can assure you I am not spreading "FUD".






Looks like Intel is really hurting on the power draw area too.
This whole topic is getting really old though, it's really hard to argue for or against vaporware.
yeah,when you notice that this graph includes ONBOARD GPU only for the AMD specs....well we know how Intel embedded graphics perform,maybe it is fair since no one will ever use it.

Vaporware to us-the CPU does exist...doh!
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AVX has nothing to do with 3D Mark Vantage.
Indeed it doesn't.Since Intel is "soo" much better in gaming as you claim,explain this.You posted a comparison between your 1090t& SB in Unigine Heaven w/extreme tessalation.So you took Intel's 32nm and compared to the age old Phenom II architecture.What were the results? I will tell you.....39.4 fps compared to 41.3fps.Not only that,the other bench you posted of your 1090t-the HTT is set to 2800MHz! No wonder.....
and just for your pleasure Balla

http://scarletwhore.com/?p=3277
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