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You mean the part of the chip that AMD is touting as having twice the 128 bit extension pipelines as their competitors?

How does that even make sense...

For instance the i5-2500k "True Quad Core" does more Gflops than a 1090T. I would think the 8 core "Orochi" would be able to beat or at the very least meet the i5 in that area.
i see it here...
http://www.overclock.net/12243649-post762.html
http://www.overclock.net/12243649-post762.html

pleaase dont start the "avx vs non-avx chip" comparison..
thats not funny or fair



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Probably in FPU heavy tasks which AMD hopes to put on the GPU anyway, for example, video transcoding.
future is fusion...
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(..then why intel bothered with EX platforms..??)

server community has different opinion than yours..
I said there's not many uses for a 16 core CPU, not there are none, yeah, the server community would love a native 16 core CPU, but most users would rather a fast hexa or octo core.
    
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From all the information that I gathered. It seems like AMD's 8 core Orochi is to compete with Intel's SandyBridge. The 8 core design is expected to compete with Intel's Hyper Threading. So for those that are expecting $1000 prices are totally wrong. Price will undoubtedly be in the $250-$350 range.
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From all the information that I gathered. It seems like AMD's 8 core Orochi is to compete with Intel's SandyBridge. The 8 core design is expected to compete with Intel's Hyper Threading. So for those that are expecting $1000 prices are totally wrong. Price will undoubtedly be in the $250-$350 range.
So wait, is it Zambezi or Orochi? I know the 8 core server model will be Valencia but this Orochi name is new to me

EDIT: NVM Orochi will be all 4 module processors, including Zambezi and Valencia
    
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From all the information that I gathered. It seems like AMD's 8 core Orochi is to compete with Intel's SandyBridge. The 8 core design is expected to compete with Intel's Hyper Threading. So for those that are expecting $1000 prices are totally wrong. Price will undoubtedly be in the $250-$350 range.
I hope the 8 core Zambezi is < $300, anything more than that and I wouldn't touch it, unless of course it beat Sandy Bridge, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to get it, period...
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if bulldozer > SB i migh pay a little bit more then 300$ max.
if SB > bulldozer i won't pay 300$ for that crap, then i'm going out to buy a SB setup.

I'm talking about the best bulldozer chip at launch.
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I hope the 8 core Zambezi is < $300, anything more than that and I wouldn't touch it, unless of course it beat Sandy Bridge, otherwise it wouldn't make sense to get it, period...
Agreed, and by beat SB I want it to beat it clock ofr clock and at max OC performance (BD at max OC outperforming SB at max OC)
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if bulldozer > SB i migh pay a little bit more then 300$ max.
if SB > bulldozer i won't pay 300$ for that crap, then i'm going out to buy a SB setup.

I'm talking about the best bulldozer chip at launch.
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As Michael Golden, an AMD engineer, explained during its presentation, each dual-core module, when fully loaded, is capable of delivering 90% of the speed of a similar native dual-core processor, while featuring a lower power consumption and utilizing less die space.
THIS is the most critical information I've heard about Bulldozer, which doesn't seem accurate, from what I heard it's 80%, even if it was 80%, getting 80% the performance out of one module is like wow... Because AMD is selling one module as two cores, but we are only getting like um 80% of the performance, THIS is why AMD will beat Intel in price!!!!!

But, price isn't the only thing that matters, PERFORMANCE is what we have been dying to learn about! 3.5 GHz X 8 Cores + .5 to .8 GHz from Turbo Core + Overclocking, wait, that's too much calculating, let's just say it's a 4.0 GHz 8 Core CPU (Considering Turbo).

Using 4.0 GHz as STOCK, you should be excited, for if these overclock, whoosh!

Now, back to the 80% thing (I don't think it's 90%, I'm pretty sure), essentially 80% of a dual core means Bulldozer will be (um, let me do some simple math here)...

-20% / module * 4 Modules (8 Cores) = -80% less vs 4 Dual Core CPUs...

Granted 4 Dual cores would be 400% so, subtract the 80% and you get..

320% of 4 Dual Core Processors...

Can you imagine 3 Core i3's running on your Main Board?

Say, that's indicative to an i7-990x Hexacore!

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Now, let's calculate the Quad Core!

-40% Performance vs 2 Dual Cores

200% = 160% of a Quad Core! Wow....

So we are looking at a BEAST, without a doubt...

It will destroy Sandy Bridge! & May even keep up with the i7-990x w/ HT!

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Granted if the 90% was true we would be looking at a real monster!

Then they said something extremely significant on the end of it all, with less power consumption & on a smaller die!! o.O
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That statement is not correct; I believe the author got it wrong, confused with bobcat.
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