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post #71 of 86
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Originally Posted by Betrivent;12327438 
For clarification.. the tires are not made by Toyota, and is thus not their fault. Tires do not last 6 years anymore, they will rot after a while and become unusable even if there is still tread. Though they are usable in the sense that if you like driving along and having your tires randomly explode then sure, by all means.

Perhaps Toyota doesn't make the tires - but they sure thrifted on them. I'll be putting a good set of Michelins on the car in the spring, and I bet they will outlast my use of the car.

With the problems I have had with my Toyota, and the fact that they are going to start stuffing garbage like ABS brakes into all of their cars - I'll be looking elsewhere for my next purchase.
post #72 of 86
You realize almost all manufacturers use ABS now? And traction control. Specifically because people like the ones claiming pedal failure were whining about "safety". And now as a result we have cars that are way bulkier and heavier, and as a result use more gas, than we ever need.

EDIT: Also, tires are changed by a dealer. From what I hear people with OEM tires from Toyota's love them. I can see them taking the good OEM ones out, putting bad ones in, and then charging you to get "better" tires. They're called stealerships for a reason..
post #73 of 86
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Perhaps Toyota doesn't make the tires - but they sure thrifted on them. I'll be putting a good set of Michelins on the car in the spring, and I bet they will outlast my use of the car.

With the problems I have had with my Toyota, and the fact that they are going to start stuffing garbage like ABS brakes into all of their cars - I'll be looking elsewhere for my next purchase.
You don't know the firsrt thing about ABS, do you?
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Yeah..why would someone not want ABS on the street? TCS too.
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Some people dislike ABS. It IS possible to be able to modulate the brakes better than ABS does, but very few people know how.
post #76 of 86
It is really a big problem for Toyota. Hope that the company wolud produce a safe and good quality cars. NASA studied Toyota and Lexus electronic throttle controllers for 10 months, however could discover no link to the Japanese automaker's sudden acceleration quagmire, reports Automotive News. Here is the proof: NASA says Toyota sudden acceleration not an electrical issue. Automotive News reports that Toyota Motors is ecstatic over the news, as sales have dipped substantially since the string of almost 10,000 accident reports started. Sales will slowly recover, but the Toyota Motors brand may not have the magic that it once did, states Efraim Levy of Standard & Poor's.
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i remember this lol i bought a 2007 corolla it was the last of the old models. only the new Yaris/Corolla/Camery were effected
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post #78 of 86
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Some people dislike ABS. It IS possible to be able to modulate the brakes better than ABS does, but very few people know how.

It's called "threshold braking" and does work better than ABS IF you know how to do it.
I hate ABS and traction control.
Wish I could turn it off without incuring insurance problems in the event of an accident.
Funny about the Toyota thing though.
Anybody remember when Audi had the same problem?
Seems they found no fault on Audi's part either.
Go figure?
post #79 of 86
Its one thing to threshold brake on the race track where the conditions are largely known and are not going to change much. Relying on threshold braking instead of ABS on the street in everyday driving and varying conditions would be extremely foolish. Same thing with traction control.
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Its one thing to threshold brake on the race track where the conditions are largely known and are not going to change much. Relying on threshold braking instead of ABS on the street in everyday driving and varying conditions would be extremely foolish. Same thing with traction control.

Whatever works for you.
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