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To all the people who are saying "Every phone does that" i would say i have owned or played with roughly 50 phones in my life and i have NEVER heared about the issue of losing recepetion while holding the phone or anything even close to it...so its a lame excuse...

I have tried it with my desire, holding it every way i can and the bars stay the same as it would if i wasnt holding it...
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post #32 of 118
when I sit on my samsung it loses signal.
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post #33 of 118
My iPhone 4 AT&T doesn't lose signal...

But tell me this: How many times has this discussion been repeated here or anywhere else? I would think that judging by how people are analyzing this that everybody knows how the iPhone 4's internals worked like the back of their hand!
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post #34 of 118
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Originally Posted by Cretz View Post
That's what you get when buying overpriced overhyped hipster garbage.
I laugh at you and your comment because the iPhone is priced exactly the same as any other smart phone like Blackberrys and high-end Android, high-end WinMo.

This whole signal/"death grip" was blown out of proportion just like the Sandy Bridge recall.
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I am definitely not an advocate of the iPhone (I despise how locked down the OS is), but I do believe that this signal degradation will happen to ANY smartphone/cellphone, regardless of brand.

With internal antennas, it's near impossible to maintain optimal signal strength when you put your hand between then antenna and the open air.
You apparently do not know what causes this. Its not your body blocking the signal. It's the fact that the exterior ring is metal. When the two pieces of metal (that are seperated) are bridged with a conductive surface (IE: your hand, or any metal), antenna loses signal just like that.

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People can do this to every phone. Deal with it.
I cannot get my Droid to. Even Steve Jobs himself went on stage and said all phones did it. IIRC he got a Droid X to lose 2 bars, a Blackberry to lose 3 bars, and an HTC to lose 2 bars. As far as i know, no other ones do. I've tried many ways, i can't get my Droid to do it. But those are all due to your hand blocking the signal, not due to your hand conducting electricity, so they're two entirely different reasons.

The funny part was someone in the audience at Jobs' demo raised their hand and requested help - they couldn't get their Blackberry Bold to do it i've tried on Droid X's too and got no abnormal signal loss.
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People clearly don't realize why it does that...
This.
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Originally Posted by steven937595 View Post
it's an iPhone 4, what difference dose(or should) the carrier make? i bet nobody would expect a Motorola's design to change for you just because a phone's available with another carrier
ninja edit: also to above post, says next iPhone (i.e. summer)
Whoa whoa whoa. Bud, you gotta research before you go spewing that misinformation. Verizon runs on CDMA network. AT&T runs on a GSM network (hence, SIM card). WHOLE different animal. The antenna had to be completely redone. This is why we didn't previously have a Verizon iPhone, but you could pop a T-Mobile SIM card in an AT&T one and it would work just fine....

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!!!

How many times do we need to go over this?

We all know that signal loss is inherant with this anttena. It is the fact that the slightest touch will render an iPhone 4 totaly useless.

Please show me proof that you can kill the signla ENTIRELY with the slightest touch of your pinky (or as shown in one demo, a bobby pin laid across it) on any other phone. Droid, Win7 phone, etc. Then you can speak about this not being a huge flaw.
Exactly.

Case in point:

Show me any phone that you can manage to kill a phone's signal COMPLETELY with a key or pin.
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post #36 of 118
Design flaw is still a design flaw.
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Originally Posted by kidwolf909 View Post
I am definitely not an advocate of the iPhone (I despise how locked down the OS is), but I do believe that this signal degradation will happen to ANY smartphone/cellphone, regardless of brand.

With internal antennas, it's near impossible to maintain optimal signal strength when you put your hand between then antenna and the open air.
It's obvious you don't understand what's going on, and more obvious that you don't know that the iphone4's antenna isn't internal--it's built into the exterior chassis of the phone, and bridging a gap between two metal pieces of the antenna causes it to lose signal. It's nothing like putting a physical barrier between a phone and a signal...

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Originally Posted by Pings View Post
I think most people understand why, if not read what kidwolf909 said. To me it's more about Apple saying they fixed it. Really for the 2nd time. Remember they 1st said is was a software thing? Then they turned a hired a new antenna tech to fix this on the next iPhone.
It was a software thing though--people were not as much whining about completely dropped signal, but rather because they didn't have the same number of "bars" as they had with their 3gs's, because of a slightly different algorithm that the hardware uses to report signal strength in terms of bars--when the same dB value of signal was present on both an iphone4 and a 3gs in the same service locations--many videos were released online showcasing this and then explaining it. But it didn't have much to do with the issue of bridging the gap in the antenna that turned into "antennagate."

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Originally Posted by steven937595 View Post
it's an iPhone 4, what difference dose(or should) the carrier make? i bet nobody would expect a Motorola's design to change for you just because a phone's available with another carrier
ninja edit: also to above post, says next iPhone (i.e. summer)
Exactly. It's pretty annoying to see this posted as news, or even at all...
    
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My lovely woman has ATT iPhone 4, but zero problem since launch.
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Breaking news: Laws of physics still the same.
Too True.

Tried it on my N1, but i can't make it (not) work.
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Originally Posted by Cretz View Post
That's what you get when buying overpriced overhyped hipster garbage.
Ha alright someone else to add my Ignore List. You should stop the trolling and quit posting in topics that you have nothing of merit to say.

The Apple hate on this forum is pathetic. The phone still has the problem, oh well, everyone that's going to buy the damn thing is going to put it in a case anyway, so this doesn't matter in the least.
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