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Originally Posted by Wulfgar View Post
I hit 750 on mine with no voltage tweaking. 800 is within reach of less than 1 volt depending on the card.

850 would be the max on air from what i've seen.
Mind you that your card is a Gigabyte 470 SOC, that is not a reference 470 at $220 price point. That's a highly binned card which sells for $290 right now on newegg. All 3 of my 470s can do 750Mhz on stock voltage but only 2 managed to get past 800Mhz under 1.087v

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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared View Post
Yah that sentence was silly. I got my gtx 470 for $185 new, they're currently going for around $220 new, and grabbing a used one for around $150 is possible. As I said, gtx 460 only made sense when the better performing gtx 470 was $350 and the gtx 480 was nearly $500. Times have changed and so has pricing. For instance the gtx 460 hawk is now $180. For just a few dollars more you get a faster card, with more upgrade options.
I've only seen 1 thread in our for sale section which listed a used 470 at $150 and it's gone within 10 mins.
Btw, I've got my Hawk for $160 (AR) and note that it's not a ref version to compare with 470's ref version at $220 price point.

I don't wanna argue about which one is superior, 460 or 470. I've had both and I'm very happy with them. Just make sure when you're making comparison, compare apple to apple.
More importantly, I wouldn't argue with you that 470 is a good choice, but OP already had 1 460 and another 460 would be his best choice.

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A 470 for $220 isn't bad, but that's a stock-clocked reference model. You're comparing that vs the price of an OC model 460 with a high end custom cooler. A more accurate comparison would be to look at the OC/custom cooled 470s, which are $260 and up. At that point you're much better off getting a 560.

Stock 460s are 675 core, and several people have gotten over 900MHz with them. That is a heavy OC.

900 core on a 470 is much rarer if not impossible on air, and adding waterblocks aren't free... so much for that $220 price tag.
Can't really say anything more. +1.
Edited by goldbranch - 2/8/11 at 5:58pm
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it will be fine...

have fun with 2x460s...

it is what i would do in your situation
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I forgot about the rebate on the first card and the rebate I'd have on another one. 380 for the pair of gtx 460s. Seems kinda silly to sell the first one at a loss then buy a 580 that would match the two. Would my hardware in the sig handle to two 460s and my cpu overclocked fine? The p8p67 pro is sli able even though it's not certified?
You'll be fine. 750W is more than enough. And yes, Asus p8p67-pro does support x8/x8 SLI.
I even consider adding another 460 into my rig with my 650w power supply.
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Thanks for the help everyone. I'm going to order another 460 when my paycheck hits the bank in the morning. I originally built the computer to play WoW, complete overkill but then started playing other games and haven't really played Wow. Oops. Now I just want to play everything max and have good fps and a single 460 was borderline not enough.
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A 470 for $220 isn't bad, but that's a stock-clocked reference model. You're comparing that vs the price of an OC model 460 with a high end custom cooler. A more accurate comparison would be to look at the OC/custom cooled 470s, which are $260 and up. At that point you're much better off getting a 560.

Stock 460s are 675 core, and several people have gotten over 900MHz with them. That is a heavy OC.

900 core on a 470 is much rarer if not impossible on air, and adding waterblocks aren't free... so much for that $220 price tag.
I guess, but even the gtx 560 at 1000 core is slower than a high clocked gtx 470, but then they can do that on air and I couldn't. I was going to get a gtx 460 for $180 back in November, but I found this card for $185 new on newegg and it seemed like a no brainer.

Was it worth the money? I dunno $285 for a dead silent card that loads around 30C in the winter and can get over a 50% overclock doesn't seem too shabby.

This discussion is pretty much over, but I'd like to continue our discussion about the gtx 460 vs gtx 470.


Can any of you run Heaven with 1 card (edit: with matching settings )? I'd like to see the performance difference between each if at all possible. Maybe I did make the wrong choice


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If I were to wait a couple months would that affect the choices? I'm quite comfortable waiting until I do the RMA on the motherboard and stuff to get an additional card or switch. After all the second card or going faster is just icing on the cake.
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Well not a couple, aside from pricing there probably won't be much happening from either AMD or Nvidia.

Kepler is suppose to come out his year, but who knows when or even if it will for sure.
    
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SO really just quit over thinking all of this, GET ANOTHER 460. they scale amazingly, %90+ in some cases. It's the easiest and least expensive route, and if you really decide you need to upgrade even further in the future you can sell them. IMHO the 460 was the best and most cost effective solution Nvidia has released in years(next to 560Ti).
JUST GET THE 2ND 460 DUDE
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I forgot about the rebate on the first card and the rebate I'd have on another one. 380 for the pair of gtx 460s. Seems kinda silly to sell the first one at a loss then buy a 580 that would match the two. Would my hardware in the sig handle to two 460s and my cpu overclocked fine? The p8p67 pro is sli able even though it's not certified?
yes your hardware is fine (see my sig - we have basically identical systems). go with a second 460, it's hands down your best bang-for-the-buck upgrade option. you won't be disappointed
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Was it worth the money? I dunno $285 for a dead silent card that loads around 30C in the winter and can get over a 50% overclock doesn't seem too shabby.

This discussion is pretty much over, but I'd like to continue our discussion about the gtx 460 vs gtx 470.


Can any of you run Heaven with 1 card (edit: with matching settings )? I'd like to see the performance difference between each if at all possible. Maybe I did make the wrong choice

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...man/heaven.jpg
for reference, my score below. i didn't bother disabling a card so this is 2x 460's in SLI. this is not a bench-run, just my everyday OC (as i'm sure your score is?). i think you're fully aware that choosing a 470 over a 460 is a good choice..and i also think you're aware that your Heaven 2.1 score is above average. i purchased both of my cards for $320 total ($35 more than your setup) and i'd put money on the fact that they perform better in games - i don't play Heaven 2.1 very much . that being said, i'd rather have 2x 470's in SLI (and 480's, 570's, the list goes on). either way that's a very impressive Heaven 2.1 score Balla.

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