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Dunno what to do anymore, He thinks im made of money when im not, but I Want the best for him...

I hope he really agree's with me on saturday, that the prices are just to much.

-John.
Kids can be unrealistic when it comes to money particularly if they get the sense you're trying to do something epic for them or if they're trying to describe what the "perfect" system is. What they think is epic is usually not realistic.

The fact is for 4K you can get a really nice system. Yes it will be slower than what he wants but hell he's young and he has time to waste and waiting for a render to complete on a "slow" 980x (lol) shouldn't be a big deal. If he really thinks he needs something faster, then he should get a job and upgrade it soon enough :-p
     
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post #102 of 415
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Dunno what to do anymore, He thinks im made of money when im not, but I Want the best for him...

I hope he really agree's with me on saturday, that the prices are just to much.

-John.
If he doesnt agree i could always use a new pc
post #103 of 415
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Dunno what to do anymore, He thinks im made of money when im not, but I Want the best for him...

I hope he really agree's with me on saturday, that the prices are just to much.

-John.
You need to set the price limit as the parent. Kids are always gone to want the best of the best, even it being way over budget.

If YOU give him a budget, it forces him to compromise and get the best computer he can out of his given budget.

He will just have to learn that sometimes, the best of the best, isn't always the best.

I personally would not throw 4k into a computer, probably 2k max, but that's your choice.
Decide as a parent if there are other things that are more important for his future, that will require money.

When you decide on the budget, tell him out right flat that is all I have to give to you.

Then:

Have him explain to you the different computer parts of a computer, not in GREAT detail, but just the 'jist' of things.

Then when got an idea of how the system works overall, let him decide what parts he needs based on the budget. Let him pick the components out, not you. With your SET in stone budget.

Make sure he knows his stuff, he should research RESEARCH and RESEARCH moar on what type of components he needs.
If he seems to lazy to do the proper research, then just buy a pre-built rendering computer. A great loss, but necessary.

Buy the parts, and build the computer together as a going away project.

Building a computer is not tough. If you get the correct parts, there are NUMEROUS guides on how to install every component. This will be VERY fun and entertaining. You each will probably make mistakes and fix them, and slowly but surely the computer will come togethor.

The experience you will get, plus price/performance, will be much great then buying a pre-built computer.

-Best of luck to you!
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 2/9/11 at 11:26am
post #104 of 415
O_o.. wait if he wants dual i7-975ee on a sr-2 motherboard ... i dont think thats possible in the first place. If hes rendering, you could have a build based off of a 980x processor or get a dual xeon processor based off a sr-2 motherboard.

sounds like he may have to do some research into what he wants, but if you really want to know what he wants the best way is for him to choose.

But what kennyparker1337 said the building together part sounds good to me
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Dunno what to do anymore, He thinks im made of money when im not, but I Want the best for him...

I hope he really agree's with me on saturday, that the prices are just to much.

-John.
Sounds like a plan. I mean, coming from something like what he has, an overclocked 3000$ build with a 30" IPS monitor would be truly amazing.

If none of you have knowledge in putting a full computer together, then I guess starting to learn about overclocking wouldn't be the best idea. Therefore, a prebuilt system, like from Maingear.com with the option to have them overclock the system a bit, would be a good choice in my opinion.

You are truly trying to do an amazing thing for you son, but he's clearly overestimating your budget for this. I mean, I'm 19, and if my dad came and wanted to drop 4000 for me to get a super computer for my career, I would prolly faint.

Now, talk to him, first of all what he suggests is out of the question, simply because of money, and second of all, he would do just fine with a ~3000$ build and an awesome monitor.
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post #106 of 415
Before spending all that money on a pc I would really have to know the use of it. I'm sorry but I didn't bother to read all the posts of all ten pages, but will this be for work or for hobby? If he works on rendering and all that stuff it would maybe be better a renderfarm, rather than a single uber-glorious-expensive pc. If he uses Photoshop constantly he needs a powerful yet "normal" pc with a uber monitor, a big SSD and lots of fast ram (and possibly an Nvidia card, for CUDA accelleration).
Does he play pc games often? Believe it or not, not everyone that has a powerful pc is interested in gaming. If he is, you could get him a better graphics card, otherwise there's no point in spending a load of money on, say, 2x GTX 570s

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Only having 10'000$ to burn (or a work that brings you that sum every month or two) would justify buying this stuff.
And the fact that he "might want" two i7 975's with the SR2 is telling me that he was just looking for the most expensive pieces on newegg, since they don't even work together.
And are the Quadros even able to do SLI? Hell if i know. All I know is that they're not even good for gaming since they have ECC memory, which is quite slow
     
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Thank you Infernosaint, kennyparker1337.

I will be updating this post on saturday, I need some rest now.

I will be pming you guys on saturday, Thank you.

(Or I can post here if it's okay)


-John
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Yea don't fret John, for 4k you can get him a system that will preform great, tons faster than his old system. His list he sent you is just wanting the best of the best when its really not needed.

I agree with Kenny's post.

Give him the budget, order the parts and build it together. i would of loved my dad doing this with me and for me. Building a computer is really easy and extremely fun. If you can read and plug things in you can build a computer.. and you always have the people on this site to help you

Newegg is a great place to order from with great customer service.

hope this helps
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This is what i would build :

Cpu : (your son said 16 cores , well 12 sould be over sufficient)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819105267

Motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813182230

Memory : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145312

Video Card :

Now,here you could either go with a professional one or with a high end card solution so i suggested these :

either this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125349

or this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133324

Hard drive : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148506

SSD : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227578

Power supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256069

Sound card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829132006

That would cost about :

With professional video card : around 2900 $
With high end desktop video card : around 2600 $

Of course you could go with a intel configuration (Xeon) and an evga sr2 motherboard , and go with sli , but that would be more expensive ..

Hope i helped ..
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Dunno what to do anymore, He thinks im made of money when im not, but I Want the best for him...

I hope he really agree's with me on saturday, that the prices are just to much.

-John.
Kid's know what they WANT not what they NEED.......thats what we're here for ...well some of us
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