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Yeah but it's been shown that the Phenom II X6 series is better at rendering with programs that takes advantage of all the cores vs. the i7 1366s not sure about sandy bridge though. Cause a core is 60% better than a thread (based off of benchmark averages).

Edit: But to be honest I'm a little bias against Intel cause part of my wants to keep thinking my 955 is the best thing on the market (which it never was???).
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I think the most important thing for rendering would be to have 24gb of RAM and a workstation video card which actually has the architecture to do modeling and rendering. I'm not 100% sure But i believe the gaming graphics cards really don't support much of the visual processing that's not oriented towards games. Yes the workstation cards are very very pricey, but from what I've been told by my friend, who is actually in graphic design, they really do make a difference in accuracy and time...

quadro 4000 or quadro 5000 by Nvidia are solid card
    
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I think the most important thing for rendering would be to have 24gb of RAM and a workstation video card which actually has the architecture to do modeling and rendering. I'm not 100% sure But i believe the gaming graphics cards really don't support much of the visual processing that's not oriented towards games. Yes the workstation cards are very very pricey, but from what I've been told by my friend, who is actually in graphic design, they really do make a difference in accuracy and time...

quadro 4000 or quadro 5000 by Nvidia are solid card
HAHAHAHA O MY

Having more ram is just more pointless memory being used. 12gb is.. eh somewhat useless but 8gb is good enough. anything over 12gb is studio blu ray encoding i would think...

BUT, i agree with workshop card.
    
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$4000 computer ? wow lucky kid .. If he does 3d work i reccomend sandy bridge cpu i7 2600k a decent p67 mobo with 8gb ram ... and of coarse 2 high end gfx cards , 2x 6950's .
    
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HAHAHAHA O MY

Having more ram is just more pointless memory being used. 12gb is.. eh somewhat useless but 8gb is good enough. anything over 12gb is studio blu ray encoding i would think...

BUT, i agree with workshop card.
there are some applications which store quite a bit of information on the RAM at any given time. Better to be safe and ready for those if you're going to be in the graphic design industry
    
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I don't recommend the i7 2600k at all, because at the moment it is Intel's highest Mid-range CPU and will be just blown away for probably $20 more when 1355 (Ivy Bridge) is released. Also, to be honest college level stuff doesn't need a workstation card. Workstation cards are really only for advanced 3D rendering (really advanced), he's not going to MIT is he? Workstation cards won't help at all in programs like blender, Photoshop, or other Video renderers. If he isn't going to be creating the sequel to Avatar, then he shouldn't need a Workstation card, just take it out of the equation. Plus due to architecture most workstation cards have poor performance in other things such as gaming or simple windows aero.

Here is an analogy:
Workstation cards are like rocket ships (yes I said "rocket ships"), they are fast in space but it takes a couple months to move em around on the ground.

High-end Graphics cards are like flying Chevy Corvettes, they're not awesomely fast in space, but they can travel fast on the ground.

So, please kick the workstation card to the curb for now and save it for later. Another option might be to cheap out on everything else and have on cheaper workstation card and another mid-range graphics card (like the 6870).

Oh yeah, I recommend 8GB of RAM to since for most of the programs he will be using "probably", 8GB of Ram will be all he needs until later. Anyways, for the sake of future proofing, make sure the RAM is a 2x4GB kit so he can upgrade in the future.
Edited by Cam3ron - 2/10/11 at 6:01pm
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omg your son is gonna love you forever.

anyways just go on newegg and search by "most expensive" that should do it right there.
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post #328 of 415
Like many others have suggested, I'd recommend the i7 950. It, overall, is one of the best performers for the money. I would recommend the socket 1155 i7 2600k, but as you have been informed, it has been pulled.

In the list of parts you linked previously, the only think I would change is the hard drive. I would recommend a hard drive, with the same capacity, but with a spindle speed of 7200rpm

Overall, good luck and have fun. That is one beautiful monitor you bought. He'll love it

EDIT: And to monkuar, I have reported all four of your posts that I saw on this thread. Every single one was intended to derail this thread and bring this forum down from a place where the knowledgeable spread their knowledge and exchange ideas to a grade school playground.
Edited by KG363 - 2/10/11 at 7:04pm
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With 4 grand you can get your son a 980X LOL!

That is horsepower. Nothing matches it (**** Sandy Bridge fanbois that say the 2600k is faster)
Price>Performance on the hexa cores TBH.
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I don't recommend the i7 2600k at all, because at the moment it is Intel's highest Mid-range CPU and will be just blown away for probably $20 more when 1355 (Ivy Bridge) is released. Also, to be honest college level stuff doesn't need a workstation card. Workstation cards are really only for advanced 3D rendering (really advanced), he's not going to MIT is he? Workstation cards won't help at all in programs like blender, Photoshop, or other Video renderers. If he isn't going to be creating the sequel to Avatar, then he shouldn't need a Workstation card, just take it out of the equation. Plus due to architecture most workstation cards have poor performance in other things such as gaming or simple windows aero.

Here is an analogy:
Workstation cards are like rocket ships (yes I said "rocket ships"), they are fast in space but it takes a couple months to move em around on the ground.

High-end Graphics cards are like flying Chevy Corvettes, they're not awesomely fast in space, but they can travel fast on the ground.

So, please kick the workstation card to the curb for now and save it for later. Another option might be to cheap out on everything else and have on cheaper workstation card and another mid-range graphics card (like the 6870).

Oh yeah, I recommend 8GB of RAM to since for most of the programs he will be using "probably", 8GB of Ram will be all he needs until later. Anyways, for the sake of future proofing, make sure the RAM is a 2x4GB kit so he can upgrade in the future.
Stop reading wiki. There is a reason it is not allowed to be used as a source. Its like basing a news report off of twitter. LOL (which sadly has been done).

CES images showed no 1356, but a couple of 2011 socket boards...

EDIT: And iVy bridge is socket 1155.
Edited by Neur0mancer - 2/11/11 at 7:59am
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