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I know these Dell motherboards: The front header IS NOT THE PROBLEM and can be easily wired in. THE PROBLEM IS that the CPU heatsink is secured by a black plastic frame with one clip on each side (with green locks on top) in which is secured by special standoffs/holes in the motherboard tray which the black plastic frame gets screwed into - this is where any aftermarket computer case will not have those standoff holes. Maybe the right shortened screws with nuts might work but without a backplate one takes the risk of damaging that motherboard from tightening. The holes for that heatsink retention are not standard so no aftermarket CPU cooler would work on that as well as that Case fan has to be used otherwise the Dell Bios will "burp" on you. In short you'd have to find a way to secure the CPU heatsink rentention, must use the case fan and might have to somehow cable tie another fan to the heatsink due to the loss of the green shroud.

Another thing all: That is a Matx motherboard and NOT BTX.

Yes Dell made computers with BTX motherboards but the OP's one isn't one of them.

The OP either has a Dimension 2400, 3000, B110, 4600 or 4700 which are all Matx motherboards and the difference is that the 4700 has a 4 pin case fan as the others have 3 pin with a unique plug but all of them are proprietary and need to be plugged into the Dell motherboard.

There are a very very few aftermarket replacement fans that can be surgically altered to make it work.
So really theres like no parts i can recycle then huh lol
post #42 of 63
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So really theres like no parts i can recycle then huh lol
Processor - too old.

RAM - not compatible as it's DDR not DDR 2 or 3. Except if you have a Dimension 4700 which has DDR 2 but will be a low speed and little mb's.

Hard drive - IDE probably old and small anyway.

Power supply - hahahahaha don't make me laugh.

Motherboard - already explained that.

Optical drive - IDE and probably best left alone.

If you have a Graphics card - outdated and AGP unless from a Dimension 4700.

So in essence not worth it unless you like to perform surgery on old outdated hardware just to see it in a new case.
Edited by nickt1862 - 2/9/11 at 7:27pm
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Processor - too old.

RAM - not compatible as it's DDR not DDR 2 or 3. Except if you have a Dimension 4700 which has DDR 2 but will be a low speed and little mb's.

Hard drive - IDE probably old and small anyway.

Power supply - hahahahaha don't make me laugh.

Motherboard - already explained that.

Optical drive - IDE and probably best left alone.

If you have a Graphics card - outdated and AGP unless from a Dimension 4700.

So in essence not worth it unless you like to perform surgery on old outdated hardware just to see it in a new case.
haha alright well considering i have a fairly low budget but i still really want to use this case, what would you recommend for a setup? Keeping in mind that im not building this on a tight schedule i would like to install hopefully a part a week in the case
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haha alright well considering i have a fairly low budget but i still really want to use this case, what would you recommend for a setup? Keeping in mind that im not building this on a tight schedule i would like to install hopefully a part a week in the case
The question becomes how extreme a system is needed to play any games out there - this is something I don't really know (sorry) as I don't game much unless you count Windows 98 through XP era games extreme - lol! Once that is answered then many suggestions can come your way.

$1K is not a "low budget", you'd be surprised of people who want to spend less than $150.00 and want it all. LOL!

Oh yes can you do the home audience (lol!) a favor and tell us what Dell Dimension model you have? I know it's one of the ones I already mentioned. But by stating this they'll be no more "this is a BTX motherboard" statement.
post #46 of 63
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The question becomes how extreme a system is needed to play any games out there - this is something I don't really know (sorry) as I don't game much unless you count Windows 98 through XP era games extreme - lol! Once that is answered then many suggestions can come your way.

$1K is not a "low budget", you'd be surprised of people who want to spend less than $150.00 and want it all. LOL!

Oh yes can you do the home audience (lol!) a favor and tell us what Dell Dimension model you have? I know it's one of the ones I already mentioned. But by stating this they'll be no more "this is a BTX motherboard" statement.
haha ya sure its a 4700 the link for the system info is here http://support.dell.com/support/topi...icetag=jgshg61

and damn hopefully someone will see my post and could give me some suggestions for what i need to get to gamin
post #47 of 63
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haha ya sure its a 4700 the link for the system info is here http://support.dell.com/support/topi...icetag=jgshg61

and damn hopefully someone will see my post and could give me some suggestions for what i need to get to gamin
I don't need the link - I had 2 4700's at one time. The hot cake model. lol!

If you have the original hard drive it should be a sata one although small and old and not a great candidate for a new system.

Also the RAM is DDR2 on that but probably no better than a 533 speed and little mb's.

The PCie graphics card if equipped (some where some weren't) most likely not good enough.
post #48 of 63
Well I'd hold off a bit for the P67 boards to come back out so that you can have the newest tech for just a little more. Something like the I5 2500K and a UD4P board would be a nice setup. If you have to have it right now I'd look at something along these lines.

$104.99 - BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138162

--That's a cheap but nice P55 board if you want something a little fancier they have those too. lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131482
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188057



$209.99 - Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core

or

$169.99 - if you live close to a Micro Center
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0341729

$41.99 - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211409

$89.99 - SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151095

$29.99 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065

$159.98 Combo deal
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -

&

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.591429

$259.99 (239.99 After Rebate) SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102921

$16.99 - LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136177

That might get you started looking anyway.
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post #49 of 63
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I don't need the link - I had 2 4700's at one time. The hot cake model. lol!

If you have the original hard drive it should be a sata one although small and old and not a great candidate for a new system.

Also the RAM is DDR2 on that but probably no better than a 533 speed and little mb's.

The PCie graphics card if equipped (some where some weren't) most likely not good enough.
haha ya this thing was top dog when i first go it lol, now i see some of the systems these guys got i no im far far far behind lol.

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Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
Well I'd hold off a bit for the P67 boards to come back out so that you can have the newest tech for just a little more. Something like the I5 2500K and a UD4P board would be a nice setup. If you have to have it right now I'd look at something along these lines.

$104.99 - BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138162

--That's a cheap but nice P55 board if you want something a little fancier they have those too. lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131482
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188057



$209.99 - Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core

or

$169.99 - if you live close to a Micro Center
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0341729

$41.99 - A-DATA Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211409

$89.99 - SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151095

$29.99 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065

$159.98 Combo deal
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -

&

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.591429

$259.99 (239.99 After Rebate) SAPPHIRE 100312-1GSR Radeon HD 6950 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102921

$16.99 - LG Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136177

That might get you started looking anyway.
dude...thank you soo soo soo much
post #50 of 63
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Hahaha yes you are completely right. I love this case basically and hate seeing it laying around in my room. But i did buy this case because of the fact that i wanted to build one from scratch so i can play new games(especially battlefields new vietnam mod). So what i was hoping to do maybe was put my computer in this case just so i can use it and start buying parts as i can afford them as i go along.
If you wanna do it that way get a 775 mobo and use it with your current cpu and graphics card, BUT battlefield 2 and 3(nov11) and processors whores, And i'm guessing you want to play it maxed out?

Like most of the guys here are saying get 1155 /6 when its fixed. I much prefer the 1366,
although its more expensive.
Edited by andrewmchugh - 2/10/11 at 12:58am
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