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I think it's possible to create a small sized generator, which wouldn't cost much money, to generate an entire house, and I bet it could run off a single 9v battery, and it does NOT use gas or fuels either!

============BUT!!!===============

Why would those companies that make electric NOT want thi$???

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I once heard that a man had invented a viable car that ran on water...

============BUT!!!!===============

Why would the oil companies not want thi$???!

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Do you see where I"m going with this???

Buy the patents and BURY IT FOREVER!!!

Sound like I'm crazy huh?

Hardly...

If I owned a multi-billion dollar corporation and someone had invented something that threatened to put me out of business I would either offer to buy it off the inventor (They would have to give up ALL rights naturally), or I would just like get rid of them & the invention, lol!

All of this reminds me of the story of the Titanic and the big FAIL of Boats as we know it...

From small (canoes) to sail boats, to big large boats, to yachts, to cruiseliners, to sea carriers, etc...
Do things go back to small eventually? I mean doesn't popularity ever win?

Can big fail? (Looks at General Motors & The Titanic)

I remember when Computers first came out, they were HUGE, now they are micro...

If they started creating SMALLER sources which could produce localized immediate electricity it would be beneficial to everyone the world over!!!

But we know the rich wouldn't like that, OH NO!

I watched a Youtube video here recently where a guy was charging his Cell Phone with his Hamster, lmao, yeah, that's what I'm thinking here!

Smaller is better!

Portable A Scale thermo-nuclear reactor anyone? <<<Lol, kidding..
Edited by _GTech - 2/12/11 at 9:39pm
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I think it's possible to create a small sized generator, which wouldn't cost much money, to generate an entire house, and I bet it could run off a single 9v battery, and it does NOT use gas or fuels either!

============BUT!!!===============

Why would those companies that make electric NOT want thi$???

=================================
=================================

I once heard that a man had invented a viable car that ran on water...

============BUT!!!!===============

Why would the oil companies not want thi$???!

================================

Do you see where I"m going with this???

Buy the patents and BURY IT FOREVER!!!

Sound like I'm crazy huh?

Hardly...

If I owned a multi-billion dollar corporation and something had invented something that threatened to put me out of business I would either offer to buy it off the inventor (he would have to give up ALL rights), or I would just like get rid of him, lol!
I'm not suggesting you're crazy,
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What does it cost to build & operate a Nuclear power plant for one year??? Just curious, does anyone have a remote clue?
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I'm not suggesting you're crazy,
Actually the dude who got the cars to run on water (yes it's true) did get killed and the cause was buried. In fact he had been reporting death threats for a couple months about the car, saying he shouldn't use it, but he continued. He ended up dead, the case wasn't ever solved and many people suspect there are reasons as to why, pure speculation of course as we still can't solve JFK. All good assassinations are just that, good assassinations that never get solved.

Why do you think the car companies in the US had no interest of pumping out pure electric cars. Now miraculously after the bail-out we start seeing them have some huge interest... Hmm, I don't believe in coincidence.

http://www.chevrolet.com/volt/

I think they've had their hand in the cookie jar the whole time, but now it's becoming a pushed subject. It's the people who are pushing it, that and some good foreign companies (foreign to U.S. and me). If they push the cars we will buy them, it's been tried and true so far.
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Actually the dude who got the cars to run on water (yes it's true) did get killed and the cause was buried. In fact he had been reporting death threats for a couple months about the car, saying he shouldn't use it, but he continued. He ended up dead, the case wasn't ever solved and many people suspect there are reasons as to why, pure speculation of course as we still can't solve JFK. All good assassinations are just that, good assassinations that never get solved.
Wagga wagga. You prove to me how you can get net energy from pure water, and I might buy the whole car thing. Show me some science. If you aren't getting net energy from pure water, then it is probably something not that amazing. Like building a heat engine and just loading a car with super hot water. "Lookz guyz, it runz on wata!"
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Wagga wagga. You prove to me how you can get net energy from pure water, and I might buy the whole car thing. Show me some science. If you aren't getting net energy from pure water, then it is probably something not that amazing. Like building a heat engine and just loading a car with super hot water. "Lookz guyz, it runz on wata!"

Ok ok, that's Fox news, it's not a good source right?


Ok, so who are they? No good?

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/139528...runs_on_water/

Seriously it's been a HUGE topic of debate. They've been developing this for a while, it's actually very crazy.

[edit] I'm guessing it won't ever hit public due to "problems". I'm not saying they are fake problems, but probably real problems that can't allow it into production for any cost effective means.

HOWEVER Hydrogen fuel cells have become a HUGE booming idea because of this. Instead figuring out how to get that to work properly (I'm guessing they lied about the actual amount of water needed and the amount of energy used for the hydrolysis). Check out Hydrogen Fuel Cells, they have some AMAZING ideas.

[edit] Bothered to do real research with this, found something interesting.

Awh crap, I should read a full article before posting the link.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ileage/4271579

Naw, if you read it it actually was good. The idea is that hybrids could be a good alternative. That's only due to a few factors. One of the main factors is that the energy spent on charging (the alternator) goes wasted, could go right back into propulsion of the car saving you gas/money.

[new link]
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...ileage/4276846

Apparently dude tried it at pop mechanics and got nothing. Though I'm also guessing he didn't mod the engine to actually run off the mixed ratio. All is fair though, you probably have to do some heavy modding to make a system like that actually work with any good results.
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Wagga wagga. You prove to me how you can get net energy from pure water, and I might buy the whole car thing. Show me some science. If you aren't getting net energy from pure water, then it is probably something not that amazing. Like building a heat engine and just loading a car with super hot water. "Lookz guyz, it runz on wata!"
you can with a fuel cell, assuming you get the energy to split the hydrogen from the sun, because otherwise it's a net energy loss.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKM4pb9Oxrg

Ok ok, that's Fox news, it's not a good source right?
EPIC LOL. "Turns H2O to HHO".

Fox really is a news station for 3 year olds....
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you can with a fuel cell, assuming you get the energy to split the hydrogen from the sun, because otherwise it's a net energy loss.

EPIC LOL. "Turns H2O to HHO".

Fox really is a news station for 3 year olds....
They get good ideas pushed, but never actual good news. It's like the tabloids in Men In Black, you get a glimpse of the truth.

What I really read on when I originally found this info was Hydrogen Fuel Cells. There actually REALLY advanced compared to that stuff.

http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/

There were some advanced storage methods, like using composite material to trap pressurized Hydrogen far greater than currently used. You could then use these cells to power the car.

The idea is to use Win to Hydrogen via Hydrolysis, make that into "hydrogen stations" and you've got a whole new economy for power.
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They get good ideas pushed, but never actual good news. It's like the tabloids in Men In Black, you get a glimpse of the truth.

What I really read on when I originally found this info was Hydrogen Fuel Cells. There actually REALLY advanced compared to that stuff.

http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/

There were some advanced storage methods, like using composite material to trap pressurized Hydrogen far greater than currently used. You could then use these cells to power the car.

The idea is to use Win to Hydrogen via Hydrolysis, make that into "hydrogen stations" and you've got a whole new economy for power.
What people don't realise about fuel cells is that they don't generate energy. They carry it. They're a fancy battery. Where do you think the hydrogen comes from? It takes energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, and conservation of energy means you cannot gain energy by combining hydrogen and oxygen to make water in a fuel cell.
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What people don't realise about fuel cells is that they don't generate energy. They carry it. They're a fancy battery. Where do you think the hydrogen comes from? It takes energy to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, and conservation of energy means you cannot gain energy by combining hydrogen and oxygen to make water in a fuel cell.
No I understand that, as I said I never actually read up on the water car crap. I was way more interested in the Hydrogen Cells. I'm fully aware that they don't create energy, but it's something that could help us in terms of clean energy.
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