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hina is buying all of the uranium they can get their hands on. I believe the figure for the number of reactors they are planning in the next 20 years is 1000. When the US is flopping from peak oil China will be in the clear with super cheap energy.
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Thorium Reactors

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Even with a push for nuclear power, coal and (not nearly to the same extent) oil will still reign king for the next 100 years. There's too much of it and the plants already exist.. now instead of adaptive measures to counter climate change we will need mitigative measures like carbon capture and storage.
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The USA has lagged far behind when it comes to implementing nuclear power sources. Compared to the primitive designs from decades ago, the new designs are incredible safe.
Nuclear power is a great option if we want electric cars with very little impact to our environment.

Scientists are also making strides when it comes to recycling the waste products. There are also reactor designs that can make use of spent nuclear material to produce more power from the waste.
France's new-gen reactor is billions over budget and years late. So while new tech is in the works, the price is being incredibly understated for a reason

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This is awesome. I read about a machine that turns garbage in to plasma, and uses the extra energy provided by the oxidation to generate energy, perhaps it will become utilized as well.

Also this sludge can easily power a microbial fuel cell or a microbial desalination cell. All that melting polar ice got you down? Turn it into drinking water by adding sewer sludge and the right bacteria!
Those garbage incinerators are surrounded by FUD. Sacramento was looking at one and found that it doesn't produce NEARLY as much energy as promised while having some serious side-effects. I forgot what they were but it was enough for them to cancel building it. I think it was something like issues with heavy metals or air pollution.

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There are a few different designs being thrown around, so it's not just one design that the scientific community is banking on. Currently the petroleum our civilization is using causes much more damager per year then the nuclear waste that is being stored. We don't have a way to clean up all of the solution petroleum releases when burned, should we stop using all internal combustion engines? IMO nuclear power is a stop gap until fusion power is a reality.

Is there a link to an article that states France is running out of room to put nuclear waste?
The problem is that while the waste may not be in a position to do any damage right now, it IS radioactive for 1,000,000 years with currently no way to reduce it down. As stated before, in less than 200-500 years we would most likely run out of room if the whole world moves to nuclear.

Comparatively speaking, if we just wean ourselves off of fossil fuels by going majority solar while working full time on both fusion and TWRs, most of the effects of fossil fuels would probably be gone within 20-50 years.

And as far as the article, I don't have it saved. You're just gonna have to trust me on this one OR you can extensively search my history, because I've been in quite a few Nuclear discussions. One article that I did have extensive discussions on was a report that Nuclear is now more expensive than solar, so without a working TWR, I don't understand why people are still trying to go Nuclear anyways.
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Nothing wrong with nuclear power the Navy has used it for 40+ years. Never really had a problem. Hell the first nuclear power aircraft carrier is about to retire.
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OK We can't dump waste on moon mars etc cause if I quote Einstein

it goes along the line of
Every things and resources we send outside of the earths is reducing the earths energy and potential .

But why just not dumping it in Africa in a huge place blocked from the rest of the world .
Just pay a poor country there and dump **** in one of those hellhole in the continent ...

they would gladly accept a couple grands to let us dump wastes there . Just put some military to block Africans from entering the perimeter of the waste disposal and you're set to go

And sure it's still there after 1000 years but in that time we will have a way to deal with it .
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im holding out for nuclear fusion, slowly comming along. Until then i think fission is the best that we got
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France's new-gen reactor is billions over budget and years late. So while new tech is in the works, the price is being incredibly understated for a reason
Just because 1 project is horribly managed doesn't mean that all projects of a similar nature are going to have the same issues.

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Those garbage incinerators are surrounded by FUD. Sacramento was looking at one and found that it doesn't produce NEARLY as much energy as promised while having some serious side-effects. I forgot what they were but it was enough for them to cancel building it. I think it was something like issues with heavy metals or air pollution.
I believe that it was an issue of cost / large amounts of waste.

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The problem is that while the waste may not be in a position to do any damage right now, it IS radioactive for 1,000,000 years with currently no way to reduce it down. As stated before, in less than 200-500 years we would most likely run out of room if the whole world moves to nuclear.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-nuclear-waste

Coal ash is a bigger issue IMO. Currently the EPA doesn't regulate it. It is being stored in giant amounts uncovered above ground. It's also foolish to say that we would run out of room to store the waste. There is plenty or room underground to store the material for many many years. Once the reactor designs that can use spent material are built / working the issue of storing the material will be greatly lessened.

There are also advancements being made in reducing the amount of waste. http://inhabitat.com/new-nuclear-rea...-atomic-waste/

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An Areva spokesperson said that waste from France’s 58 reactors over the last 40 years could fit nearly inside an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
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Comparatively speaking, if we just wean ourselves off of fossil fuels by going majority solar while working full time on both fusion and TWRs, most of the effects of fossil fuels would probably be gone within 20-50 years.

And as far as the article, I don't have it saved. You're just gonna have to trust me on this one OR you can extensively search my history, because I've been in quite a few Nuclear discussions. One article that I did have extensive discussions on was a report that Nuclear is now more expensive than solar, so without a working TWR, I don't understand why people are still trying to go Nuclear anyways.
Solar is currently so inefficient, costly, and space consuming that it currently isn't viable for the majority of our energy uses. Solar panels are also made using toxic metals, plastics, and the production currently uses large amounts of fossil fuels.
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I support it but a way to eliminate the wasteproduct must be found No more half-assed jobs.
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So we are taxing all the current coal power plants into oblivion, and building nuclear reactors everywhere.......a bit dangerous?

The EPA is preventing a 3.2 billion dollar power planet in corpus Cristy, TX from being turned on.
would provide electricity to 2+ million people.......
So we have blackouts because we can't provide ourselves with enough energy in the winter... and our energy prices are sky rocketing because of it......
and people wonder why the economy is dieing.

We used to have abundant and cheap electricity in the united states.
That wont be the case by the end of this year
Coal power plants Emit C02 and steam(what you exhale and plants breath....





Edited by finalturismo - 2/9/11 at 9:04pm
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