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Damn, well that seems kinda not worth spending the 500 euro's (give or take) on then.
Maybe i should go for a different motherboard and gpu + 2nd 5850 instead?
No offense to the chap trying to help you, but a quality 520W PSU is absolutely fine running your 5850. If you want to get a more powerful one for a little extra wiggleroom and/or you want to add a second GPU down the line, then go for it.

Regardless, you will see a jump in FPS if you go to SB, except for where you are hard-choked by your GPU.
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How much do you want to spend on your cooler? We can go all way from the CM Hyper 212+ to the Noctua NH-D14/Thermalright Silver Arrow.

If you want to overclock at all, then yes. You definitely want the K version. (get the K version, really, it's worth it)
Well, my budget for the entire upgrade is around 400 euro's (give or take) so for the cooler that would be around 50 euro's (70 usd).

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What resolution do you play at? I would assume that in most cases your video card is the limiting factor, not the Q6600. I think you'd see greater improvement from an upgraded video card.

As for coolers, the best I know of for air without regards to quiet is the prolimatech megahalems.

Yes, you should go for the 2500k instead of the 2500 if you want some free performance. Overcloking is very easy, and you can overclock A LOT on air cooling typically with this CPU.
I play @ 1920x1080 on one monitor.
That cooler does look like a good choice.

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No offense to the chap trying to help you, but a quality 520W PSU is absolutely fine running your 5850. If you want to get a more powerful one for a little extra wiggleroom and/or you want to add a second GPU down the line, then go for it.
I used to game with my 4850 attached and as i have read that draws even more power then the 5850.
    
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You can't really overclock the 'non-K' version. Sure you can play with blck speed but most people don't seem to be willing to do that to the extreme with these SB chips.

I would get the 2500k & a decent air cooler... if you stay more budget oriented, get a 212+ cooler, and you'll "should" still be able to do like 4.4-4.5 without really increasing temps... Any higher than theat and 2500k's seem to be hit or miss. I have seen golden ones that will do 5ghz @ 1.38 and alot of mediocre ones that do like 4.6 @ 1.4-1.45v

There are of course much more expensive options, but I think in that HAF you have, the 212+ would be getting plenty of air flow.

Also, your PSU has plenty of power if your just upgraded cpu/ram/mobo... these SB processors are very power efficient for what they do.

Also, you could probably get away with running a pair of 5850s in CF AND the 2500k on that PSU and never have a problem. 2500K + 2x 5850s is definitely under 500W during gaming. I am not sure I would try to run all 3 at 100% load (stress test load, not gaming load) for long periods of time though.
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I play @ 1920x1080 on one monitor.
That cooler does look like a good choice.


I used to game with my 4850 attached and as i have read that draws even more power then the 5850.
At that resolution your video card is more likely to slow your frames than your CPU. The cooler gets rave reviews everywhere. I've not owned one though. Beware that cooler is very large though, you need room in your case vertically, and memory clearance.

I promise you that system will run with that power supply if it will provide the wattage it is rated at. You don't need a bigger one unless you add a second video card.
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I came from a 3ghz q6600 around a month ago and the diffrence is amazing!
fps in games has increased not only from my previous bottleneck but also the cpu. I mainly use flight sim which needs more cpu power than any other game ive seen and that can eat even the best cpu's, the i5 2500k does a great job. and a 5fps diffrence is bull*%£

a few pointers which i really think you will benefit from

Get the K series cpu ie 2500K, it has the headroom you need for overclocking as the non (k) series cpu's will not overclock

Get a P67 motherboard not the H67. The P67's are for dedicated graphics cards which you have, And the H67 boards utilize the onboard graphics chip from the cpu which you do not want. I also think the P67's offer more features.

A good 600-700w psu is recomended if you desire to overclock that cpu and run a good graphics card + there's more power there for the future if you choose to need it for further upgrades.

Check out the thermalright venemous x, better than the megahelms and 1-2 degrees behind the monster noctua nh-d14 with puch pull fans.

hope this helps.
Edited by Chewy - 2/10/11 at 6:45am
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You can't really overclock the 'non-K' version. Sure you can play with blck speed but most people don't seem to be willing to do that to the extreme with these SB chips.

I would get the 2500k & a decent air cooler... if you stay more budget oriented, get a 212+ cooler, and you'll "should" still be able to do like 4.4-4.5 without really increasing temps... Any higher than theat and 2500k's seem to be hit or miss. I have seen golden ones that will do 5ghz @ 1.38 and alot of mediocre ones that do like 4.6 @ 1.4-1.45v

There are of course much more expensive options, but I think in that HAF you have, the 212+ would be getting plenty of air flow.

Also, your PSU has plenty of power if your just upgraded cpu/ram/mobo... these SB processors are very power efficient for what they do.

Also, you could probably get away with running a pair of 5850s in CF AND the 2500k on that PSU and never have a problem. 2500K + 2x 5850s is definitely under 500W during gaming. I am not sure I would try to run all 3 at 100% load for long periods of time though.
Thanks for the support,
I guess the lifetime (as in time till its outdated) will increase if i opt for the 2500k.
Yes, my HAF 932 has plenty of airflow, the current temperature of my q6600 is @ room temp (17 degrees celcius).
Could you link me to the 212+ cooler?

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Get a P67 motherboard not the H67. The P67's are for dedicated graphics cards which you have, And the H67 boards utilize the onboard graphics chip from the cpu which you do not want. I also think the P67's offer more features.
Could you help me with this?
I am a student and thus i need a good (but fairly cheap) motherboard that supports crossfire and has a p67 chipset.
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post #17 of 22
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Thanks for the support,
I guess the lifetime (as in time till its outdated) will increase if i opt for the 2500k.
Yes, my HAF 932 has plenty of airflow, the current temperature of my q6600 is @ room temp (17 degrees celcius).
Could you link me to the 212+ cooler?



Could you help me with this?
I am a student and thus i need a good (but fairly cheap) motherboard that supports crossfire and has a p67 chipset.
In that case sell your graphics card to pay for the motheboard and use the onboard graphics?

the cost of a h67 to a low end p67 is minimal

it was just a recomendation how low you want to go?
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In that case sell your graphics card to pay for the motheboard and use the onboard graphics?

the cost of a h67 to a low end p67 is minimal

it was just a recomendation how low you want to go?
I think i found an ok motherboard, Asus P8P67-M.
Not wanting to sell my 5850 yet haha.
    
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I think i found an ok motherboard, Asus P8P67-M.
Not wanting to sell my 5850 yet haha.
yes that is a good board but a (micro) board not a usual atx board

Here is a cheap atx p67 mobo
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1906

or a good low cost popular board

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1906
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yes that is a good board but a (micro) board not a usual atx board

Here is a cheap atx p67 mobo
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1906

or a good low cost popular board

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=5&subcat=1906
Hmm, ok.
So my shopping list so far :

- Intel Core i5 2500k Boxed = €204,95
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus = € 28,85
- Asus P8P67 LE = €119,98
- GeIL Black Dragon GB34GB1600C8DC= € 48,97

-Total= €402,75

I have taken into account everybody's suggestions and it seems this is the best solution rather then adding another video card.

edit : One more question, aside from h67 having onboard video what is the difference to a P67?
I can get a H67 for about 25 euro's less with better specs (Asus P8H67-M Pro) then a P67 (Asus p8p67 LE)

Thanks,

-XeloX
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