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Sigh. I'm about to pull out these fans and just go back to stock. This is driving me nuts .
NOOO, don't do that. Modding FTW.

After spending some time in this thread, I think I understand what's going on.

Yeah, at ~3v, many fans won't even start, so your Sunons situation is understandable. I'm pretty sure they manufacturer messed up somewhere and they meant to do 12/7/5v originally. Having 3.9v and 2.7v makes no sense to me.

So, from my understanding, here's what you're looking to get:
Ch1: 4*.4a=1.6a, 1.6a*12v=19.2w ~22w
Ch2: 2*.53a=1.06a, 1.06a*12v=12.72w ~14w
Ch3: 3*.45a=1.35a, 1.35a*12v=16.2w ~18w

I did some curiosity testing with my Noctua NF-P12 fans. It is rated for 12V, 1.08W, .09A. So I busted out my bro's Tenma Laboratory DC PSU, and at:

5v: .035A
7v: .047A
9v: .060A
12v: .083A
15v: .107A

NOTE: at 12V, the starting load was up to .217A

Seems like with lower volts, you get lower Amps as well. Now we have to figure out what introducing resistors here does.

Let's try Noctua's resistor thingies:

Low Noise (1100rpm): 12v, .06A (same as 9V)
Ultra-low Noise (900RPM): 12V, .052A (same as ~7.5V)

Conclusion: resistors don't seem to significantly increase wattage.

NOW,

V= R x I

It seems like you fried your old resistors because the load was too high. They were no designed to handle more than 1 fan per channel, probably. You'll need to get more proper and much more powerful resistors (or get a few and solder them in parallel)

Ok, I'll have to stop here. Gotta go for the weekend. I'll be back Sunday to finish the calculations. Also, I'll ask my brother who know way more about this than I do on his advice.

Hope this helps.
    
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NOOO, don't do that. Modding FTW.

After spending some time in this thread, I think I understand what's going on.

Yeah, at ~3v, many fans won't even start, so your Sunons situation is understandable. I'm pretty sure they manufacturer messed up somewhere and they meant to do 12/7/5v originally. Having 3.9v and 2.7v makes no sense to me.

So, from my understanding, here's what you're looking to get:
Ch1: 4*.4a=1.6a, 1.6a*12v=19.2w ~22w
Ch2: 2*.53a=1.06a, 1.06a*12v=12.72w ~14w
Ch3: 3*.45a=1.35a, 1.35a*12v=16.2w ~18w

I did some curiosity testing with my Noctua NF-P12 fans. It is rated for 12V, 1.08W, .09A. So I busted out my bro's Tenma Laboratory DC PSU, and at:

5v: .035A
7v: .047A
9v: .060A
12v: .083A
15v: .107A

NOTE: at 12V, the starting load was up to .217A

Seems like with lower volts, you get lower Amps as well. Now we have to figure out what introducing resistors here does.

Let's try Noctua's resistor thingies:

Low Noise (1100rpm): 12v, .06A (same as 9V)
Ultra-low Noise (900RPM): 12V, .052A (same as ~7.5V)

Conclusion: resistors don't seem to significantly increase wattage.

NOW,

V= R x I

It seems like you fried your old resistors because the load was too high. They were no designed to handle more than 1 fan per channel, probably. You'll need to get more proper and much more powerful resistors (or get a few and solder them in parallel)

Ok, I'll have to stop here. Gotta go for the weekend. I'll be back Sunday to finish the calculations. Also, I'll ask my brother who know way more about this than I do on his advice.

Hope this helps.
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Yes, I understand that. The fan controller was made to run ONE fan per channel. I didn't know this ahead of time though.

So now I need to figure out what I need to do, to FIX the fan controller. I need to know which resistors to add to the circuit (replace the fried ones), and if the diodes need replacing too.
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Let me know how you make out pio.
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LOL, Pio. Know that I'm not laughing at you but the situation itself. First a couple of motherboards and now this?

Subbed because I wanna learn as well.
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LOL, Pio. Know that I'm not laughing at you but the situation itself. First a couple of motherboards and now this?

Subbed because I wanna learn as well.

Pio and I worked it out that he's going to drop in a lower resistance pair of resistors. Should increase his output voltage without botching the rest of the circuit.
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Ah I see.
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Yeah, I have to thank Blitz for the calculations. Him and his mathz skillz. Looks like I'll be dropping a 10ohm and 22ohm 1w resistor in there, and it appears the diodes and the rest of the circuit SHOULD hold up nicely.

EDIT:
And yeah I know! What's with all of my darn parts ending up in flames? Seriously. It's like my hands are the anti-Christ of PC's.
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And yeah I know! What's with all of my darn parts ending up in flames? Seriously. It's like my hands are the anti-Christ of PC's.
Ha ha! Seriously bro, don't come near my house. I like my rigs thank you.
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Ha ha! Seriously bro, don't come near my house. I like my rigs thank you.
What's your EXACT address again?
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What's your EXACT address again?
1400 Defense Pentagon, Washington, DC 20301

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