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Originally Posted by Cavi View Post
I read the agreement. It said to call. So I did.

You're telling me my copy of windows at it's current state, activated by Microsoft themselves, isn't legit. That sounds silly.
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Originally Posted by horse mouth(MS)
Q. Can a PC with an OEM Windows operating system have its motherboard upgraded and keep the same license? What if it was replaced because it was defective?
A. Generally, an end user can upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on a computer—except the motherboard—and still retain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created. Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred to the new computer, and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do not need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement motherboard is the same make/model or the same manufacturer's replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer's warranty.

The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the End User Software License Terms and the support of the software covered by that End User Software License Terms. The End User Software License Terms is a set of usage rights granted to the end user by the PC manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software as installed on that particular PC. The system builder is required to support the software on the original PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade their PCs with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base component "left standing" that would still define the original PC. Since the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC, when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC is essentially created. The original system builder did not manufacture this new PC, and therefore cannot be expected to support it.

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/lice...nsing_faq.aspx

scroll down a bit, it will tell you all you need to know when using OEM licenses on their OS's.
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post #63 of 111
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Thats a lie, ive got Windows XP (OEM Dell version) to work on a compaq presario computer before, Obviously I had to change the key to a legal one, but it worked. You could always use Linux? Thats free. ^_^
Useally, OEM computers like Dell, Compaq, HP etc tend to save the license keys on the motherboards automaticly. I have never had to use a license key to reinstall an OEM machine in my life. (especially dell.) all you do is pop in the disc, and install. You see no product key page.

So yes, you may have used a generic OEM disc for another OEM brand, and yes, it may work.
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Buy it from tpb for about $0.00
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Agree. Technically the OEM copy is "married" to the original hardware it was installed on. So moving a license from a Dell to a new build is wrong and taking the OEM copy from NewEgg to a computer today and then installing 3 years later on a different computer is wrong.
It's wrong, not illegal. It's like tax avoiding vs tax evading.
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I am tired of reading so many posts suggesting that you may install an OEM copy of a Windows OS on multiple computers and still retain a proper license. Just because you call up and ask for a license key and you are given one does NOT make it OK. Not getting caught is not the same thing as being allowed. The operators that are manning those phone lines do not have the training (or inclination) to determine if you are installing on a new machine or not. The license is clear; OEM = one machine only.

OEM licenses are cheaper for a reason, and it has very little to do with not having a box. It is cheaper because eventually you will need a new machine and will then have to buy another copy of the OS. So next time someone suggests that installing an OEM OS on a new (read: not the original) computer is OK; will get a Piracy Infraction.

Notes:
Minor hardware changes are permitted
A motherboard change is never minor
Hardware failure may not allow you to re-activate a license
This thread is about licensing not morality
MS will often allow you to re-activate even though they shouldn't, they have stated this will not protect you from prosecution
If you are upset about the licensing issues of OEM software complain to your system builder
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post #67 of 111
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Originally Posted by transhour View Post
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/lice...nsing_faq.aspx

scroll down a bit, it will tell you all you need to know when using OEM licenses on their OS's.
So you say the motherboard is defective. = win.
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post #68 of 111
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It does sound silly indeed.

Just about as silly as recommending Linux to a Windows user. Why do Linux people keep on doing this? I would rather pay for Windows than run Linux any day as Linux does not run what us Windows users want to run. Pure and simple.
this is part of the problem on this forum, the hypocrisy.

the members of this forum, seem to hold onto some form of "beliefs" that piracy is bad, and even bands together about it, condoning anyone who admits to being a pirate, but not when it comes to their beloved "OS".

but when it is thrown in their face, that their OEM copies of windows is only good for the pc it was first activated on, then its "okay" to bend the rules, cause they didn't commit "piracy", they just "bent" the rules a little bit.

their is nothing wrong with offering linux as a "free" alternative to windows, especially if obtaining or using windows in a fashion can be considered a crime.
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There is too many people here promoting scamming MS and lying!

I am no MS fan but people should pay what is due for development!

Mods - this Thread should be locked!

EDIT - PS, Offering Linux and other solutions to me is a good idea! the OP may not be aware he has cheaper options.
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There is too many people here promoting scamming MS and lying!

I am no MS fan but people should pay what is due for development!

Mods - this Thread should be locked!

EDIT - PS, Offering Linux and other solutions to me is a good idea! the OP may not be aware he has cheaper options.

Scamming? How can you scam someone you have had no means of contact with? You did not give or take money from Microsoft, so scamming is the last thing that is.

No one is promoting lying. No one said "go lie." As I said, its the same as Tax Avoidance vs Tax Evasion. Two very different things. One is legal, the other is not.
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