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Lenovo slimmed the backplate down on basically every model since the T400/T500.

I guess they flex now. Honestly its not something you'll notice unless you're looking for it. Still an amazing keyboard.
I don't know about every model they have, but my T410 has no flex whatsoever. It's rock solid.

From what I heard, yeah they did it on the T400 but they screwed up the design bad. Too many people complained, not enough people bought it, and so they readjusted it for later models and now it's ok again.
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I've seen these in real life (and used one), and they're pretty neat

Or maybe it was the X-100e I used
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I get one of these at work from our Lenovo rep, they're sexy machines. And for the record, it's not a netbook it's an ultraportable laptop, talk to any rep that works with lenovo. Another reason they stayed away from it being a netbook is because if they ran with an intel atom processor they'd have to jump through to many hoops to get it how they wanted since intel has how they want it used pretty locked down.
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I get one of these at work from our Lenovo rep, they're sexy machines. And for the record, it's not a netbook it's an ultraportable laptop, talk to any rep that works with lenovo. Another reason they stayed away from it being a netbook is because if they ran with an intel atom processor they'd have to jump through to many hoops to get it how they wanted since intel has how they want it used pretty locked down.
Lenovo doesn't want to call it a netbook for marketing purposes. Saying it's an Ultraportable Laptop puts it one step above the usual Atom crap on the market in the consumers' eyes.

But it's a netbook. As long as it uses a CPU where many instructions are implemented in software instead of hardware to reduce transistor count and save power, it is a netbook.
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Lenovo doesn't want to call it a netbook for marketing purposes. Saying it's an Ultraportable Laptop puts it one step above the usual Atom crap on the market in the consumers' eyes.

But it's a netbook. As long as it uses a CPU where many instructions are implemented in software instead of hardware to reduce transistor count and save power, it is a netbook.
Ahhh gotcha, thanks for the clarification
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But it's a netbook. As long as it uses a CPU where many instructions are implemented in software instead of hardware to reduce transistor count and save power, it is a netbook.

Brazos does a lot of software emulation of hardware functions?
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Brazos does a lot of software emulation of hardware functions?
Well, everything points to it.

1 - It's an upgrade to the Neo's, which did do it
2 - It has a total platform TDP about equal to Atom's, which is virtually impossible without also implementing software emulation
3 - It's still slower than a pentium 4 when the ALU/FPU is involved, which is where most of the software implementation always is

While I didn't see anything specifically saying it, it's the only logical conclusion.
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Why do these always have to be so ugly?
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Why do these always have to be so ugly?
I think they look alright. (Except for the thinkpad logo)
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Well, everything points to it.

1 - It's an upgrade to the Neo's, which did do it
2 - It has a total platform TDP about equal to Atom's, which is virtually impossible without also implementing software emulation
3 - It's still slower than a pentium 4 when the ALU/FPU is involved, which is where most of the software implementation always is

While I didn't see anything specifically saying it, it's the only logical conclusion.
1) Athlon Neo used the K8 architecture. Brazos uses the Fusion architecture. Neo used as much software emulation as desktop K8s...

2a) We have limited information about the Fusion architecture as while to make an informed guess about TDP of them.
2b) Atom chipset TDP sucked. AMD desktop chipsets with vastly superior IGP beat the Atom's chipsets. AMD could beat the 3+ year old Atom design with smaller processes and just better design.

3) Here is an architecture overview with explicit ALU/FPU blocks. AMD purposely choose to go with a less powerful FPU. http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1036&type=expert



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Why do these always have to be so ugly?
What do you mean? It's beautiful!
Edited by DuckieHo - 2/11/11 at 8:35am
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