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I have always lusted for the X100e, but this just makes it near impossible to resist! Love Lenovo, quality design, no glossy/flashy crap, and it just works. My ONLY gripe is that it only has HDMI out, I think the DM1z has VGA and HDMI. I need VGA since I use some old projectors.

*EDIT* NM Just saw view of back and there is the VGA! WIN WIN
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Well, everything points to it...
...
While I didn't see anything specifically saying it, it's the only logical conclusion.
emulation, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?



it implements the most common instruction sets natively, 64-bit ftmfw.
and virtualization too. there is no emulashyun going on.

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2 - It has a total platform TDP about equal to Atom's, which is virtually impossible without also implementing software emulation
does this mean if intel can't do it, nobody else can?
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
2a) We have limited information about the Fusion architecture as while to make an informed guess about TDP of them.
2b) Atom chipset TDP sucked. AMD desktop chipsets with vastly superior IGP beat the Atom's chipsets. AMD could beat the 3+ year old Atom design with smaller processes and just better design.
We might not be able to make an informed guess but we can make an educated one.

We know:
1 - The CPU+GPU packages are either 18W (Zacate) or 9W (Brazos), excluding the rest of the platform
2 - The Atom CPU on it's own is 8W
3 - The rest of the Atom platform has a stupidly high TDP of 22W (IIRC)

As long as we can assume that AMD didn't use/design a chipset as bad as Atom's (which I think is a pretty reasonable assumption considering just how bad it is), Zacate looks like it will be about equal and Brazos definitely beats it.

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3) Here is an architecture overview with explicit ALU/FPU blocks. AMD purposely choose to go with a less powerful FPU. http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1036&type=expert
Here you go, from the site you just linked me:

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Taking a step away from the Athlon architecture, AMD implemented a dual decoder stage, rather than their more traditional three complex decoder unit. It can decode two x86 instructions per clock, and 89% of all x86 instructions can be passed as a single micro-Op, while another 10% can be expressed as two micro-Ops. The final 1% of instructions (non-common) are then microcoded. The decoder feeds both the integer and floating point/SSE units.
Ok so maybe 1% is quite a bit less than an Atom or Nano, but I was still right!


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emulation, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

it implements the most common instruction sets natively, 64-bit ftmfw.
and virtualization too. there is no emulashyun going on.

does this mean if intel can't do it, nobody else can?
You obviously have NO idea what we're talking about here
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Asus has better looking Netbooks with Dualcore Atoms and nVidia ION graphics and these craps get all the attention because its AMD, yeah great for AMD, they missed the top of the Netbook market by over a year.
Are you serious? The matte carbon fiber on most of the thinkpads look a lot better. The design is so simple.
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I think Asus's netbooks suck. I've used several of them before - the keyboard flexes like it was a trampoline, the keys have no feedback to them, it's impossible to feel the edges of the touchpad, and the glossy screen needs to be wiped down every 30 seconds to stay clear.
You were probably unlucky enough to get a bad batch then.

My K42Jr has a keyboard that flexes to hell, I'm going to get that fixed soon.
My friend's K42Jr is from a different batch, and the keyboard is as solid as it gets.
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Netbooks are so 2010.
 
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Ok so maybe 1% is quite a bit less than an Atom or Nano, but I was still right!
You would be, were it not for one word you said.

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But it's a netbook. As long as it uses a CPU where many instructions are implemented in software instead of hardware to reduce transistor count and save power, it is a netbook.
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I'll stick with my X201t.
    
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You would be, were it not for one word you said.
What, no credit for at least being close?
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Netbooks are so 2010.
Not sure if serious

But if you are, maybe the atom netbooks. These new fusion ones with the E-350 in them finally make them worthwhile and usable, and is a perfect complement to my main gaming desktop for taking notes and carrying around.

It surely beats using some tablet in my opinion at least.
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