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Thanks! I really should update this...

I've recently hooked up my mineral oil bath to an aquarium chiller (phase change). I should stick some pictures on here. I can chill the oil to sub-ambient temperatures pretty nicely!


Pictures would be nice!! How much was the aquarium chiller and how much power does it draw?
    
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Pictures would be nice!! How much was the aquarium chiller and how much power does it draw?
I think my pump is a little weak, so it takes a loooong time to chill, and doesn't keep up well when I'm playing a game. It draws A LOT of power--it's a 1/5hp. It's an older piston-type compressor. I imagine if you dropped $200-$300 on a new rotary type you'd be in business for sure. I've been super busy, but I'll try to get on this by the weekend.
    
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I think my pump is a little weak, so it takes a loooong time to chill, and doesn't keep up well when I'm playing a game. It draws A LOT of power--it's a 1/5hp. It's an older piston-type compressor. I imagine if you dropped $200-$300 on a new rotary type you'd be in business for sure. I've been super busy, but I'll try to get on this by the weekend.
Looking forward to it!
    
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So I was wondering what is the average cost for making an imersion rig, I know that puget sels theirs for around 400 and up. I was looking at the stuff I have available rad, 10g fish tank, and lots of computer parts. I believe the only thing I need is a pump and the mo, so I would probably only need $100 for thoes. Am I missing anything?
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So I was wondering what is the average cost for making an imersion rig, I know that puget sels theirs for around 400 and up. I was looking at the stuff I have available rad, 10g fish tank, and lots of computer parts. I believe the only thing I need is a pump and the mo, so I would probably only need $100 for thoes. Am I missing anything?
The mineral oil itself can get pretty expensive.
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So I was wondering what is the average cost for making an imersion rig, I know that puget sels theirs for around 400 and up. I was looking at the stuff I have available rad, 10g fish tank, and lots of computer parts. I believe the only thing I need is a pump and the mo, so I would probably only need $100 for thoes. Am I missing anything?
I spent the following:
Oil: $103.97
Fish Tank: $10.60
Lian Li motherboard tray: $29.95
ASRock motherboard: $44.98
LED Lights: $7.98
31 Gallon Tub: $21.20
Plexiglas: $2
ATX on/off power switch: $9.94
66 GPH Pond Pump: $10
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Total: $241-ish

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Would luv to see some pics......
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looks extremely interesting, but i feel like its more of a pain and would rather just air or water cool. yea comparing $300 to $700 for a complete WC kit is nice, but it also destroys almost any resale value, where WC is done to preserve value by keeping components as cool as possibe. in the end you have the sunk costs of the oil set up and the system, where the wc you can resell ever single part of your loop/rig. unles your just messing arround with low end boards/cpus it doesnt make sense to my wallet lol
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looks extremely interesting, but i feel like its more of a pain and would rather just air or water cool. yea comparing $300 to $700 for a complete WC kit is nice, but it also destroys almost any resale value, where WC is done to preserve value by keeping components as cool as possibe. in the end you have the sunk costs of the oil set up and the system, where the wc you can resell ever single part of your loop/rig. unles your just messing arround with low end boards/cpus it doesnt make sense to my wallet lol
Or you don't care about re-sale value
    
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I feel I have some relevant experience worth sharing. I had the V2 kit from Puget for about a year. It was almost completely silent, the loudest part of the system was the bubble bar I had for it. It looked completely awesome.

HOWEVER

The night I got it all set up, I used it for 3 hours before I noticed the system temperatures were crazy high. Like 78°C. Turns out the pump was not circulating the oil through the radiator. Anyway, long story short, the acrylic tank failed and I ended up with about 1.5 gallons of mineral oil all over my floor. It RUINED the carpet, and there's still oil in there today.

I got it back up and running with a new pump, and added a 2nd pump and a flow meter, changed the QDCs to ones with considerably lower restriction, and everything was dandy for about 8 months. Then the tank cracked again. This time it was smaller, and I had the tank sitting in a plastic mini-tub in the event of a spill so the carpet wouldn't be further ruined. I decided to say "screw it" and switched over to water cooling.

During the ~1 year that I had it, every time I wanted to do anything, ANYTHING, I had to lift the mobo tray out and hold it over the tank to let the excess oil drain back into the tank. Then anything I touched was covered in oil, I routinely had to stick my hand/arm inside the tank, and everything was generally a mess by the time I was done. Also, most things were all-day affairs because of the added complications of the submerged system.

The temperatures weren't all that great, either. Granted I was running stock heatsinks, but I was still expecting better temperatures than what I got. CPU idle was about 42-45°C, GPU idle was around 39°C. One of the upsides is that temperatures climbed to steady-state quite slowly, however, once the system reached steady-state under load, it would take just as long to return to steady-state at idle. I had a warning that would sound if the CPU temperature got above 52°C so I wasn't adding too much thermal energy into the system which had lead to the first tank failing. There were some tasks/games that put the steady-state for the system at 55°C or more (Dragon Age: Origins, BRINK, & Portal 2 being the most common offenders) So I would only play them for about 1 or 2 hours at a time, and I would have to wait an hour for the thermal energy to dissipate before doing anything else more demanding than web browsing.

In summary, the pros were: Quiet, looked cool, everyone I talked to thought I was a super-genius. The cons were: Messy, temperatures were underwhelming, messy, maintenance was a pain in the ass, messy, expensive, messy, and all warranties were immediately voided. Did I mention it was messy? Seriously. Any time I did anything with it, my hands/arms looked like I had just jacked off an elephant.
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