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I think I missed the point of this. All I'm seeing is that clock-for-clock a GTX 560 is better than a GTX 460.
But by how much? Not a lot. This means that clock-for-clock, the GTX 470 would kick its backside. In fact, most GTX 470s can do 750 - 800Mhz and that would be enough. If i was choosing between the 2, I would buy the 470 because its cheaper, though the 570 is more "efficient" (dont like the stupid power limiter though). Although the price difference between the 2 isn't so big.
    
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Efeman , ,,But when the the 560 outdoes the more 470 in nearly all scenarios at stock, the overclocked results will yield the same standings.''

I don't agree with that. GTX470 achieves more performance per 1Mhz because of more Shaders 448 vs 384/ROP's 40 vs 32/Tesselation units 14 vs 8!. GTX470 has lesser TMU's 56 vs 64 ,that's why it comes short in texture fillrate bandwidth even with the same frequencie as GTX560. In theory, GTX470 would need a lower clock frequencies to achieve the same performance level as GTX560 does. GTX560 main performance advantage is high texture fillrate thanks to 64TMU's and high core freq.
Overclocked GTX470 might easily outperform equally oc'ed GTX560 in heavy tessellation applications.

Hmm, i'd love to see some max oc'ed GTX470 and GTX560 performance comparisons
Edited by EwX - 2/12/11 at 4:46am
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post #23 of 42
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No **** Sherlock? We're comparing a GTX 560 to a GTX 470. If the topic was a trade of a 570 for a 560, I wouldn't have made that point and recommended against the trade.
You said 570, hence his comment.
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I freaking love my 470, and now I have sli freaking beast, u can hit 800 easy, ongoing under water in a couple dAys hoping to hit close to 900, I thunk get a 470 and later sli if u need but even a stock 470 will handle all ur current games, but for crysis 2 I thunk you will want to get sli for any card you get, but that's if ur intocrysis and stuff

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From 608/837/1215Mhz to 850/1000/1700Mhz.

No thanks, I'll keep my 470.
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post #26 of 42
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From 608/837/1215Mhz to 850/1000/1700Mhz.

No thanks, I'll keep my 470.
Exactly...

I took mine even higher with a water block. This thing is smoking fast.

I don't understand the gtx 470 hate, but I'm starting to welcome it because I want to get a used one for SLI and the more hate the less they cost
    
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post #27 of 42
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From 608/837/1215Mhz to 850/1000/1700Mhz.

No thanks, I'll keep my 470.
I would stay with the 470 with aftermarket cooling for this
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post #28 of 42
I'd probably do it if I got to trade for both, and the 560's came with the same Golden Edition coolers I have now. Otherwise, no. I rather like my cards actually

Depending on the individual samples, at max OC, a 470 and a 560 are pretty much equivalent. Although at higher res levels on certain games, the 470 should be faster. Same if there's a lot of tessellation going on. OTOH there's other scenarios that would favor the advantages of the 560, which are higher texture fill rate, FP16/64-bit texture calcs, and better z-culling.

So it's mostly a toss-up at more normal resolutions like 1920 and below. I'd probably prefer the 560's for the heat/noise factor ... as long as they look as sexy as my current cards
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post #29 of 42
Yes but only for the Gigabyte GTX 560 SOC. Comes with GTX 570 performance levels out of the box.
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The simple answer is no because of this reason. Stick a better cooler on the 470 and you're good to go.
Interesting. I expected the gap to be a little wider clock for clock. How much faster is the 470 at 560 clocks?
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