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post #11 of 79
Fanboy much there^^? Honestly they will preform near identical. I'd get whatever one is cheaper. WARRANTY, does that 5850 still fall under warranty?
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Fanboy much there^^? Honestly they will preform near identical. I'd get whatever one is cheaper. WARRANTY, does that 5850 still fall under warranty?
No fanboyism here, I had 2 5850s and 2 6870s before I had my 570. Get over it the 470 is better than the 5850, hell the 5850 really only competes with the 460 anymore. For $20 more the 470 is the better deal, at stock it beats the 5850 and 5870 in a good deal of games but also they gain more from overclocking than the 5XXX cards do. The only reason the 5850 is getting so much attention now is because its in the ATI thread. Look at the bench scores I posted above. Tell me HOW is the 5850 better?
 
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No fanboyism here, I had 2 5850s and 2 6870s before I had my 570. Get over it the 470 is better than the 5850, hell the 5850 really only competes with the 460 anymore. For $20 more the 470 is the better deal, at stock it beats the 5850 and 5870 in a good deal of games but also they gain more from overclocking than the 5XXX cards do. The only reason the 5850 is getting so much attention now is because its in the ATI thread. Look at the bench scores I posted above. Tell me HOW is the 5850 better?
How is it better? It's not, but it beats the GTX470 card in 6 games (by your post), comes within +/- 5 fps otherwise, and is $20 cheaper. Seems to me that's a good deal o.O
 
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post #14 of 79
a 5850 flashed to 5870 bios and clocks only perform 3-4% lower as compared to a 5870.... you can also OC the snot out of 5850s...Not so sure on 470s...

Never had a problem playing games(except for metro 2033 or crysis) at all the eye candy with it with my card at 5870 clocks...

I have a 5850 flashed to 5870 clocks as my backup card...recently bought a 6950 2GB model, I plan to get a third monitor for eyefinity and wanted the extra vram...
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post #15 of 79
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No fanboyism here, I had 2 5850s and 2 6870s before I had my 570. Get over it the 470 is better than the 5850, hell the 5850 really only competes with the 460 anymore. For $20 more the 470 is the better deal, at stock it beats the 5850 and 5870 in a good deal of games but also they gain more from overclocking than the 5XXX cards do. The only reason the 5850 is getting so much attention now is because its in the ATI thread. Look at the bench scores I posted above. Tell me HOW is the 5850 better?
The 470 is better because it's up against a stock 5850. If you listened to what I said, this being the THIRD TIME NOW, that the 5850 was at 5870 clocks and voltages DUE TO A BIOS FLASH then I'd like to see what a 5870 is compared to a 470. I owned one a while back and had it overclocked to the level of a 480. I know what it can do, however, a 5870 is better than the 470, hands down, in DX9 and DX10 at STOCK. Due to the same number of ROPs on the card, the Pixel Fillrate is going to be the same and the reason why the Texture fillrate is different is due to the card having only 1440 shaders rather than 1600.

I would appreciate it if a recent review could be posted so I can ensure that I get the best performance for the dollar. As for the warranty, the refurb 470 has a 90-day manufacturer's warranty and that's it. The 5850's warranty is voided due to the card's apparent bios flash. I asked the person to keep the flash so I really don't mind that. It's in immaculate condition so I could care less.

I posted this in the ATI section because I figured that I'd get a few more opinions on the ATI side. Apparently I was very mistaken and the Nvidia person above is upset at me?
     
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post #16 of 79
Simple. The GTX 470 is faster. I just got a near-new ASUS HD 5850 DirectCu TOP on eBay for $160 (splurge buy) and I'm willing to admit that. I was really tempted to go for a GTX 470 or 460, but the 470 sucked up 90 to 100 watts more on full load. I couldn't justify that power draw just to get perhaps 5-10% more performance so that eliminated it to either the 460 or 5850. I found a good deal on the 5850 so I decided to stick with that. Its also nice to know that theres a good bit of headroom on my card in case I ever need it. I don't play many demanding games. So far though, the HD 5850 runs everything I need flawlessly. Hope this helps you decide.

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Nevermind... no one reads the posts I provide. I'm just going with the 5850... >_>
     
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Nevermind... no one reads the posts I provide. I'm just going with the 5850... >_>
....Just look at those TPU reviews above and compare the scores for the 470 vs the 5870.

The 560 review is as recent as it gets for those two old cards.
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I've done 5850toxic/gtx470/gtx460 review before, take a look @ it here:

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-ca...inireview.html

you may be surprised but oc'ed 5850 rapes stock gtx470 except for couple games (lost planet 2 for instance), and consumes like half amount of power that gtx470 does.
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post #20 of 79
A 5850 has to be clocked to 878Mhz to match a 5870 so if you can get the 5850 up to around 1030Mhz+ on the core you'll be laughing

Personally I say go the 5850 as it'll require less power and produce less heat and noise
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