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Guys...CHILL OUT

Oh and for your information for those who are wondering. The 465's (Earlier ones) with 10RAM chips (Last I looked) where the PCB types that ARE 470's. They are 470 PCB's locked down via a 465 BIOS so they could be sold as 465's. However hardware wise they ARE 470's with a gimped BIOS of a 465.

How is that hard to grasp ?
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I don't really know about stock clocks, or stock cooling, but my GTX 470 under water has been nothing short of a beast.


I game and fold at 900 core and I've benched 930 in several tests including Heaven with max tessellation... I have no idea what this means relative to ATI cards when overclocked, but I do know I want another
    
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Guys...CHILL OUT

Oh and for your information for those who are wondering. The 465's (Earlier ones) with 10RAM chips (Last I looked) where the PCB types that ARE 470's. They are 470 PCB's locked down via a 465 BIOS so they could be sold as 465's. However hardware wise they ARE 470's with a gimped BIOS of a 465.

How is that hard to grasp ?
apparently very hard for some people. lol I've tried explaining that multiple times.

Sorry for off topicing this thread op.
I say go for the 470 all the way. From an owner of one, they are rock solid, oc great, and a very nice card.
Same can be said for the 5850 too, I just prefer Nvidia.

Thanks for clearing things up Enterprise.
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That's cool, I just wanted to lay it on the line, there is nothing to really argue about here so lets move along
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Anything that requires flashing, overclocking is not the same thing. Even if early GTX465 had GTX470 PCB that are not the same thing because is what the manufacturer is trying to sell. Same goes ith Unlocked CPU core, or for example PII 955 vs 965 they are the same thing. All u need to do is up multiplier and you have a 965 but u dont. Also if u kill the card and cant flash it back that will u sent then?
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post #76 of 79
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I don't really know about stock clocks, or stock cooling, but my GTX 470 under water has been nothing short of a beast.


I game and fold at 900 core and I've benched 930 in several tests including Heaven with max tessellation... I have no idea what this means relative to ATI cards when overclocked, but I do know I want another
That's an awesome over clock but 90% of GTX470's never get that high....

That's like some ATI cards that can do 1.1Ghz....

Few and far between
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Anything that requires flashing, overclocking is not the same thing. Even if early GTX465 had GTX470 PCB that are not the same thing because is what the manufacturer is trying to sell. Same goes ith Unlocked CPU core, or for example PII 955 vs 965 they are the same thing. All u need to do is up multiplier and you have a 965 but u dont. Also if u kill the card and cant flash it back that will u sent then?
Well it is physically the same and the "unlocked" version of what the manufacturer is selling. there is no guarantee that you can unlock it though.
Except in my case buying it used and unlocked already. So I know I was buying infact a working 470, not a 470 with a 465 bios.

Also Frosty88, the guy I bought it off of, bricked his first ge 465 after trying to flash it with a 480 bios.
He sent it in for rma and MSI accepted it.
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That's an awesome over clock but 90% of GTX470's never get that high....

That's like some ATI cards that can do 1.1Ghz....

Few and far between
ati cards can massively overclock i'll give them that for sure.

Most 470's can be overclocked to be nearly, if not completely, equal to a 480 however, provided good cooling.

Either or, its still a great free boost in performance.

So to the OP I suggest the 470, because I own one and can tell you that you won't regret it.
As pointed out, tesselation on the green team is a bit better vs the red teams cards.

But the red team is not a "grill force thermi" lol

Each has it's advantages and disadvantages.
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