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I run core temp... I also have PC wizard.. been using them for many years.

Core temp reads 40C (50C under full load) with the Rosewill RCX-Z1 (save the comments about it being crappy it has a 45k hour garuntee and thats important to me)

However in CPUID i get a few readings that I am not understanding.

I have tmpin0 (inside case temp) of 49C

I have NO tmpin1 reading (worrisome)

I have a tmpin2 (northbridge) reading of 39C

and then the core readings are between 41 and 41.4 C

Now this corresponds to my coretemp readings but I worry about the phenom 2 temperature threshold stated to be 62 C... If I cant find the tmpin1 temperature WHAT should I use to find that temperature out?

Here are the specs of my machine

Mainboard : MSI 870S-G54 (MS-7599)
Chipset : AMD RD770
Processor : AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3200MHz
Physical Memory : 8192MBDDR3-SDRAM
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 (Zotac Fanless)
Hard Disk : Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (1000GB)

Also the Seagate started clicking and after a S SDT and a L LDT and a Smart check it all checks out.. I ordered a samsung spinpoint Ive already had 2 Seagates fail on me in 4 years.. They used to be reliable. I'll be craigslisting the RMA's drives for 50% of cost to get the hell rid of them and use another samsung spinpoint as a backup.
 
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It's at stock speed with an aftermarket cooler, you're fine..
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It's at stock speed with an aftermarket cooler, you're fine..



Ok.. However, What about unlocking the CPU cores. I've never done that before and although I've been building my own systems and running them fairly successfully for 12 years I have never unlocked CPU cores. And the only overclocking I did was on a pentium 60 (back in 1994-95) and well ocing it to 100 mhz it lasted 48 hours before it fried. Been wary of that ever since.
 
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post
I run core temp... I also have PC wizard.. been using them for many years.

Core temp reads 40C (50C under full load) with the Rosewill RCX-Z1 (save the comments about it being crappy it has a 45k hour garuntee and thats important to me)

However in CPUID i get a few readings that I am not understanding.

I have tmpin0 (inside case temp) of 49C

I have NO tmpin1 reading (worrisome)

I have a tmpin2 (northbridge) reading of 39C

and then the core readings are between 41 and 41.4 C

Now this corresponds to my coretemp readings but I worry about the phenom 2 temperature threshold stated to be 62 C... If I cant find the tmpin1 temperature WHAT should I use to find that temperature out?

Here are the specs of my machine

Mainboard : MSI 870S-G54 (MS-7599)
Chipset : AMD RD770
Processor : AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3200MHz
Physical Memory : 8192MBDDR3-SDRAM
Video Card : NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 (Zotac Fanless)
Hard Disk : Seagate ST31000528AS ATA Device (1000GB)

Also the Seagate started clicking and after a S SDT and a L LDT and a Smart check it all checks out.. I ordered a samsung spinpoint Ive already had 2 Seagates fail on me in 4 years.. They used to be reliable. I'll be craigslisting the RMA's drives for 50% of cost to get the hell rid of them and use another samsung spinpoint as a backup.
The core temps are off on this chip and are inaccurate, on your board they are about 8-10c off, so whatever your core temp reads add 10c to it and you should have your cpu temp within 1-2c.

Tmpin0 should be your cpu temp and tmpin1 should be your case temp. so it looks like your board temp isnt working. Your cpu temp is at 49c so at full load you are really hitting 60c cpu temp
Edited by Therionx - 2/11/11 at 1:36am
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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post
Ok.. However, What about unlocking the CPU cores. I've never done that before and although I've been building my own systems and running them fairly successfully for 12 years I have never unlocked CPU cores. And the only overclocking I did was on a pentium 60 (back in 1994-95) and well ocing it to 100 mhz it lasted 48 hours before it fried. Been wary of that ever since.
Theres no cores to unlock on this chip, its a straight 6 core chip with no hidden cores.
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Ok.. However, What about unlocking the CPU cores. I've never done that before and although I've been building my own systems and running them fairly successfully for 12 years I have never unlocked CPU cores. And the only overclocking I did was on a pentium 60 (back in 1994-95) and well ocing it to 100 mhz it lasted 48 hours before it fried. Been wary of that ever since.
What about it? You have a 1090t, which was manufactured with 6 cores. You cannot unlock hardware that doesn't exist on the chip.

People are able to unlock phenom X2's, and athlon X2/X3's since they were manufactured originally as a quad core. Some of the cores were faulty on these chips, so in order to save silicon and stop lost profits, they sell with cores disabled. Occasionally you'll have a higher demand for the lower chips and will have to throw in perfectly functional quad cores in order to meet your demand.
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What about it? You have a 1090t, which was manufactured with 6 cores. You cannot unlock hardware that doesn't exist on the chip.

People are able to unlock phenom X2's, and athlon X2/X3's since they were manufactured originally as a quad core. Some of the cores were faulty on these chips, so in order to save silicon and stop lost profits, they sell with cores disabled. Occasionally you'll have a higher demand for the lower chips and will have to throw in perfectly functional quad cores in order to meet your demand.
thanks for the explanation

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Originally Posted by Therionx View Post
The core temps are off on this chip and are inaccurate, on your board they are about 8-10c off, so whatever your core temp reads add 10c to it and you should have your cpu temp within 1-2c.

Tmpin0 should be your cpu temp and tmpin1 should be your case temp. so it looks like your board temp isnt working. Your cpu temp is at 49c so at full load you are really hitting 60c cpu temp

Oh God thats terrible. When i wake up in the morning its usually around 22C (I don't turn it off at night) I am going to try the crappy MSI live update and see if the bios isn't as up to date as its listed.



EDIT - of course all bios functions are up to date. I'd really like to find a way to PROPERLY monitor the CPU temperature. Any suggestions?
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thanks for the explanation




Oh God thats terrible. When i wake up in the morning its usually around 22C (I don't turn it off at night) I am going to try the crappy MSI live update and see if the bios isn't as up to date as its listed.



EDIT - of course all bios functions are up to date. I'd really like to find a way to PROPERLY monitor the CPU temperature. Any suggestions?
Its not your motherboard its the actual chip, mine does the same thing on my board, only im about 20c off from what my core temps to actual cpu temp is. your tmpin0 should be your actual cpu temp, it is on my msi board running my other 1090t. Hwmonitor is the best app to use for this chip, just follow the cpu temp and youll be good. or like i said before you can just add 10c to your core temps and thats pretty accurate too.
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hwmonitor will give you accurate readings

look at TMPIN1 - at least on gigabyte MB
or use aida 64extreme
dont look on cores temp, they are not the temo of all CPU
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AMD overdrive can give a more accurate temp reading .
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