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Yeah. That was such a good game. If I had to do a Top 5 Classic RPG list....
1 Final Fantasy 6
2 Chrono Trigger
3 Secret of Mana
4 Wild ARMs
5 Suikoden
I'd say the first part off FF VI in fisrt too, didn't really like when the world became a wasteland and you had to find back all your characters, then Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest V,VI,III, VIII, Skies of Arcadia and Xenogears in no particular order.

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That is probably why most of the new FFX fans hated FFXII. The game's map was not in a straight line like X, plus there was not a romantic comedy love drama throughout the whole game like in VIII and X.
But there still were a lot of emo pretty boys XD
Edited by Telimektar - 2/19/11 at 12:57am
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Ew, you Selphie lover! lol. FF6 was definitely interesting. There really was no main character like you said and everyone brought something interesting to the table and it didn't feel like any one particular person was a filler character.

I loved Locke Cole though

imo, Americans took over RPGs since PS2 era.

Japanese need to focus on storyline and less on graphics. Since they developed FF13, just use that same engine or whatever and now work on a Final Fantasy with a story and game play that isn't linear.
Selphie is cool, don't be a hater hehe

I didn't like Locke much, but end-game Locke with deck-out gear was OP lol.

But seriously, some character really tested your skills. For example:

You couldn't play Sabin well if you can't play fighting games to save your life.

Celes (With her blade) and Cyan needed good timing to be good.

Gau... well Gau needs an FAQ lol.


Point is they just don't make them like they used to

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The best thing about Squall was that he was such a douche. Without a doubt he a text book example of an unwilling hero. I'd spend the first six hours of the game playing cards to break the junction system so I could run away from all the fights while still killing bosses so I could maximize attribute bonuses in the late game so I wouldn't need to junction my best magic to have uber stats.
You know what would've made me love that system. Draw Limits
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Selphie is cool, don't be a hater hehe

I didn't like Locke much, but end-game Locke with deck-out gear was OP lol.

But seriously, some character really tested your skills. For example:

You couldn't play Sabin well if you can't play fighting games to save your life.

Celes (With her blade) and Cyan needed good timing to be good.

Gau... well Gau needs an FAQ lol.




Point is they just don't make them like they used to



You know what would've made me love that system. Draw Limits

GAH!!! I hated that they did that with Sabin! LOL!

And I moved Suikoden to the #4 position because of the story.
     
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I'd say the first part off FF VI in fisrt too, didn't really like when the world became a wasteland and you had to find back all your characters, then Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest V,VI,III, VIII, Skies of Arcadia and Xenogears in no particular order.

But there still were a lot of emo pretty boys XD
First thing i did was relegate Vaan to the bench when i got the chance. My bloody word... Vaan is probably the most worthless "Main Guy" i've ever seen in an RPG... hurr hurr i wants me all big fly ship thing
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GAH!!! I hated that they did that with Sabin! LOL!
I loved it. Bumrushing like a bauss
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I loved it. Bumrushing like a bauss
Don't get me wrong, he had some rad combos....but, JEEZE! I had to write them all down and tape them up so I could see them. lol
     
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After playing FFVIII like 20 times, I finally started to realize that Rinoa's actually really annoying lol. I still love her, but in the beginning she was an annoying pester. Squall at first seemed so taciturn and cool, but after playing it so many times it became a sort of emo thing. Selphie is Selphie lol. The train song sums her up. lmao.

I loved FFVIII. So romantic. It was really my first FF. I had played a tiny bit of 7, didn't like it originally. Played a bit of 6, tactics etc but never really got into it. After VIII I went back, played all the others and fell in love with FF.
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Don't get me wrong, he had some rad combos....but, JEEZE! I had to write them all down and tape them up so I could see them. lol
Lol i play a lot of fighters so it wasn't a big deal for me

If they remade FF6 as is, i can only imagine all the QQ threads from these new age "gamers" for this game. Onoez can't do this, can't find, i'm lost blah blah.
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Very sad news, but this could of been predicted a long time ago
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They need to just stop pretending and start releasing movies. Calling Final Fantasy an RPG is an insult to the rest of the genre, and video games in general, since there isn't much in the way of participation. The "gameplay" is still the same NES-era crap that is charming on an 8-bit console, but pathetic on something as powerful as a PS3, and the games have actually managed to get more linear.
It's a JRPG. Just because they don't abide by parameters set by Western RPGs doesn't somehow negate the fact that it belongs in an established genre.

While you may argue that Final Fantasy XIII was on "auto pilot" (which was an option, not mandatory) the series as a whole has retained just as much input from the player as any other game/genre. You're controlling just about every aspect of your character, from movement, commands in battle, what equipment and items you use, etc. How s that any different from your run of the mill FPS? Or Western RPG? Racing game? They just also happen to have cutscenes in between said gameplay that tells a halfway decent story.

Final Fantasy games have some of the most engaging, difficult bosses out there.

Omega/Shinryu - Final Fantasy V
Emerald/Ruby Weapon - Final Fantasy VII
Minerva - Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Omega Weapon - Final Fantasy VIII
Nemesis/Penance - Final Fantasy X
Absolute Virtue - Final Fantasy XI

And so on. Of course, there are "cheap" ways to kill some of them, and straight up abuse of glitches for bosses in some other games, but much of that is akin to camping a respawn point in a multiplayer shooter and so on. To be beaten correctly, many of them require ridiculous amounts of preparation, skill or luck.

In Absolute Virtue's case, it went undefeated for the longest time and was thought to be unbeatable. Through glitches it was eventually beaten numerous times, and I know that since quitting the game in 2009 Square has raised the level cap/broken a lot of the old endgame scene, s it wouldn't surprise me if he's relatively easy now.

Either way, there's a level of strategy found in the series and can require more effort on the player's part than many other games nowadays.

As for linearity, is it really as bad as folks make it out to be? Let's look at the older Final Fantasy games. Most of the time you had a world map that was inaccessible for the most part until you got your canoe/ship/airship, etc., and even then there was very little to do until at least halfway through the game. Exploration outside of dungeons would rarely yield any kind of incentive whatsoever and you generally just stuck to story-advancing areas anyway. Even in dungeons the "freedom" was usually just a branching hallway that led to either a treasure-less dead end or a chest, with only one true path to your next objective. That's not true freedom, that's the illusion of freedom. One that I liked, but still rather shallow. I also strongly prefer this type of linear gameplay to the empty, open worlds found in, say, a Bethesda game.

Even compared to this, Final Fantasy XIII was extremely linear. No denying that, but that's one game. Even the trailer for Versus XIII shows large, open areas, and the director for Final Fantasy XIII has already stated that they're addressing the concerns of the community with Final Fantasy XIII-2. There's only one way to address linear level design: making it non-linear.
Edited by Paradox me - 2/19/11 at 3:21am
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