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On the multi-core server conversation:

Most large systems are going to virtual machines. You can actually assign cores to certain virtual machines, so the more cores you are able to run, the more dedicated cores those virtual machines will have.

One thing enthusiasts seem to forget in the server world, is that servers are HARDLY ever built for just one program, particularly today. In the past, the number of Terminal Servers we would need here at my work would have been upwards of 10 physical boxes for JUST Terminal Services to distribute the load in a way that the client end is still very snappy. Now, we have 5 servers TOTAL, which includes file servers, domain controllers, sql servers, RDS servers, DHCP and DNS, etc that are all virtualized. There are some-odd 60+ servers running virtually on these 5 boxes. That's about as multi-threaded as it gets.

Just keep that in mind when you try to compare "architectures" in a modern server environment; parallel computing is king.
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On the multi-core server conversation:

Most large systems are going to virtual machines. You can actually assign cores to certain virtual machines, so the more cores you are able to run, the more dedicated cores those virtual machines will have.

One thing enthusiasts seem to forget in the server world, is that servers are HARDLY ever built for just one program, particularly today. In the past, the number of Terminal Servers we would need here at my work would have been upwards of 10 physical boxes for JUST Terminal Services to distribute the load in a way that the client end is still very snappy. Now, we have 5 servers TOTAL, which includes file servers, domain controllers, sql servers, RDS servers, DHCP and DNS, etc that are all virtualized. There are some-odd 60+ servers running virtually on these 5 boxes. That's about as multi-threaded as it gets.

Just keep that in mind when you try to compare "architectures" in a modern server environment; parallel computing is king.
This is very true.

To be a douche, I'd like to say that this thread seems very biased towards AMD.

I'm confused as to why you compare a Sandy Bridge CPU to a Phenom II X2 for overclocking. The Phenom II might be a good OC'er compared to it's fellow Phenoms and comparable Intel CPU's, but it's performance is weak and it's virtually useless for benching. It'd bottleneck even a midrange card in 3DMark benches. A true overclocker should look for an i7 990X as they'll OC to at least 4.5 GHz with the right cooling and will be sufficient to not bottleneck most GPU's out there. A dual Xeon X5680 setup would be even better for 3DMark though. Overclocked, they'll give 70k+ CPU score in 3DMark Vantage.


Also, Intel CPU's are generally cooler AFAIK.
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If you want speed, go Intel. If you want a budget build go AMD.
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If you want speed, go Intel. If you want a budget build go AMD.
Exactly.
Why do so many people get offended by this?

If you want the best, get Intel/Nvidia.
If you want to save money while having great performance too, an X6 with a pair of Radeons are a viable option.
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I think he's pretty spot on with this guide. AMD's current range isn't much more than a competitor for the s775 Intels (aside from Thuban which does a decent job pushing i7s in multi-threaded tests).
Remember, the Phenom i/II is a revised version of the old Athlon 64 which kicked the old netburst into the dirt. It's a good chip, but Intel has really learned from their mistakes and moved on a lot. Hyperthreading is still not as good as a real core for hard work, but it's a great way to maximise use of the existing ones.
But Intel's current core design is much more efficient and plain faster than the current AMD one, that much is a fact, and that will remain true until the Bulldozer release, when we shall see how it performs.

For server work, especially with everything going to virtual machines, then more real cores wins out over HT especially at the higher end of the market where servers are under higher loads for longer. For servers where the load is much more variable, then hosting the VM on an HT core is entirely reasonable.

When it came down to the buying decision, it came down for me to the whole platform cost. Intel's high performance platforms just cost a lot more than AMD's. I could get a top end AMD board and chip for the price of a 1366 i7 chip alone. Intel's performance really costs, but if Bulldozer beats Intel, don't expect AMD's top performers to remain the cheap alternative.
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Nice topic DSF, I agree with what you posted. This has been my general consensus for the past 6 years.
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How to decide ?
Poor or rich.
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This is very true.

To be a douche, I'd like to say that this thread seems very biased towards AMD.

I'm confused as to why you compare a Sandy Bridge CPU to a Phenom II X2 for overclocking. The Phenom II might be a good OC'er compared to it's fellow Phenoms and comparable Intel CPU's, but it's performance is weak and it's virtually useless for benching. It'd bottleneck even a midrange card in 3DMark benches. A true overclocker should look for an i7 990X as they'll OC to at least 4.5 GHz with the right cooling and will be sufficient to not bottleneck most GPU's out there. A dual Xeon X5680 setup would be even better for 3DMark though. Overclocked, they'll give 70k+ CPU score in 3DMark Vantage.


Also, Intel CPU's are generally cooler AFAIK.
i wasn't saying pit the phenom II against SB, we all know SB would crap on the phenoms chest, rape it, and then come back and crap all over it, again.

i've re edited the post, to explain better.
    
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