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That explains it.
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troll detected, you give no reason, or back up your point with evidence, prove this, i also asked for help if you do not believe it to be strictly true, now go hang yourself out on the washing line, because that, was a rinsing.
    
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troll detected, you give no reason, or back up your point with evidence, prove this, i also asked for help if you do not believe it to be strictly true, now go hang yourself out on the washing line, because that, was a rinsing.
I agree. So let me give you a reason.

AMD runs cooler? Since when? I always thought they drew more power and ran hotter?

Anyways, the real one I see that I just have to say no to is for netbooks. You said that Intel should be gone to for netbooks. Have you seen the new AMD Fusion chips? They just completely destroy Atom. I mean, there really is no more use for atom besides price IMO. Fusion is basically what we wanted from atom years ago.

But besides that, I agree with the first two statements about budget vs raw power.
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Exactly.
Why do so many people get offended by this?

If you want the best, get Intel/Nvidia.
If you want to save money while having great performance too, an X6 with a pair of Radeons are a viable option.
Actually its go Intel/ Nvidia or AMD

Actually, right now with the 6990, its AMD

In the graphics world, I really don't see any big gaps in performance between Nvidia and AMD. Its basically just trading blows. Both companies fill all segments, so really it doesn't really matter.
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I agree. So let me give you a reason.

AMD runs cooler? Since when? I always thought they drew more power and ran hotter?

Anyways, the real one I see that I just have to say no to is for netbooks. You said that Intel should be gone to for netbooks. Have you seen the new AMD Fusion chips? They just completely destroy Atom. I mean, there really is no more use for atom besides price IMO. Fusion is basically what we wanted from atom years ago.

But besides that, I agree with the first two statements about budget vs raw power.
In my experience with my previous Intel chips, this Phenom II is cooler under load by a very good margin. However, I've never owned a Sandy Bridge chip.

Also, remember how hot the Netburst architecture was? God damn, those things got toasty...

Fusion chip looks pretty neat, I want to see one in person. Atom was disappointing from the get-go, and I don't think you'll find anyone who will argue with that.

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Actually its go Intel/ Nvidia or AMD

Actually, right now with the 6990, its AMD

In the graphics world, I really don't see any big gaps in performance between Nvidia and AMD. Its basically just trading blows. Both companies fill all segments, so really it doesn't really matter.
I agree with this 100%, nVidia and ATI are consistantly leap-frogging each other. Both are great, and performance seems to vary greatly on which game is being played, as with anything.
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The i5 2500K costs about the same as an X6 1090T.
I know the 2500K is definitely much faster in applications optimised for 4 cores or less.
But what about applications optimised for 5-6 cores?
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The i5 2500K costs about the same as an X6 1090T.
I know the 2500K is definitely much faster in applications optimised for 4 cores or less.
But what about applications optimised for 5-6 cores?
Looking at this review, I'd say the i5 2500K is roughly equal to an X6 1075T depending on the program. The 1075T is a 3 GHz while the 2500K is clocked at 3.3 GHz (possibly running at 3.4 GHz with Turbo?).
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Looking at this review, I'd say the i5 2500K is roughly equal to an X6 1075T depending on the program. The 1075T is a 3 GHz while the 2500K is clocked at 3.3 GHz (possibly running at 3.4 GHz with Turbo?).
My only problem with this argument is that the i5 isn't a 6 core processor. So with that logic, then AMD has to have a 6 core to compete with a 4 core. That's kinda depressing.

I'm disappointed in that aspect.
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mediarocker knows it, his sig says it all

If it takes 8 cores to beat a 4 core, It's like needing a muscle car to beat a Honda. Embarrassing.

amd needs to pick up the desktop game, but they are a clever company, i bet the real money is in laptop proccesors and now netbooks, where they are dominating with zacate, props to them for that, but i would love to say AMD but doubt i will as i expect bottleneck with 2 480's in sli.
    
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It's not embarrassing, it's just a different route at getting the same performance.

That's like a one car adding horsepower (or cylinders) to perform better (X6 1090T), while the other cuts weight to perform better (i5-2500k).

There is no arguing that AMD desperately needs this upcoming desktop architecture upgrade, but instead of looking at performance per core, performance per price is a better representation of what an average consumer is looking for. In very multi-threaded applications, the X6 performs admirably for how ancient it's underpinnings are.
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