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Originally Posted by Thingamajig View Post
I guess you've never heard of Rain Man.
Yes i have actually, and iirc he memorised thousands of decimals of pi that took him hours to recite.

Nowhere near as fast or as much as a computer.
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post #92 of 121
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can people calculate pi to a million digits in seconds?

yeah, I didn't think so.
Yes some people can their was a guy on tv that his brain delvoped differt where his math skills was in the faster part of the brain and he could beat a machine.
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post #93 of 121
Here's something of interest you guys may want to checkout.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/wi...-jeopardy.html
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Yes some people can their was a guy on tv that his brain delvoped differt where his math skills was in the faster part of the brain and he could beat a machine.
he could calculate pi to 100 decimals, still not as far or as fast as a modern CPU.
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Here's something of interest you guys may want to checkout.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/wi...-jeopardy.html
good point, i'd forgotten about that
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post #95 of 121
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Originally Posted by Psilocybe View Post
Thank you blameless for an intelligent post.

Computers will eventually surpass brains in terms of "operations" per second, whether through quantum/optical or other means. Deal with it people. Does that make the brain any less awesome? No. As blameless said though, our brains were created through non-intelligent means. Imagine what intelligence could actually come up with.
You both say this as if it is fact(embolden part). We have no idea how it was truly created or how powerful it is or can be. I will agree that our brains are finite in power, that is quite obvious.
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Yeah, the wonderful human brain vs dumb computers that cannot pass the Turing test, cannot play chess, dance tango, fall in love and so on
I just wonder why do we need computers at all?
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Actually the Human brain is much more than just computational power. Imagination is something arguably just as powerful and that is something no machine can do as of yet.
Just wait for skynet...
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he could calculate pi to 100 decimals, still not as far or as fast as a modern CPU.

good point, i'd forgotten about that
ah thats still good when you consider we havet really found a way to use 100% of our brain.
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Still waiting for proof that the brain can calculate millions of decimals of pi in seconds
Oh dear god, you obviously have no idea how the brain works. You seriously have NO idea do you? Have you even been paying attention to what I've been trying to say?

Conscious thought < Brain power

I seriously don't know how you can't comprehend this. In fact, you can't even compare conscious activity to brain power, considering the amount of energy the brain has to expel just do do the following:

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1)  Engage in self awareness, creating the ability to view the world independently as a being that can perceive and interact.

2)  Interact with the world, or environment, in a way to understand patterns and symbols.

3)  Interact symbolically in ways so that it can (sub points)
     a) Create language
     b) Use language with other independent being (consciousness)
         1) Take that language and convert it into ANOTHER language (Read/Write into MATH)
         2) Use that language to form complex forms of that language (complex equations)
         3) Solve the complex equations
     c)  Relate that new information into a way so that the other consciousness can understand

Besides doing the above, the mind has to:

1)  Sustain the organism, so that it's body functions are active and moving keeping it alive
2)  Be aware of it's surroundings, so that any change can be easily adapted to (more survival)
I could go on and on, making a huge list of what the brain has to do on a continuous basis. Some of these scenarios are so advanced that a computer at the moment can't possibly do them, period. A computer has to run the OS, yes, but given that the general "OS" of conscious thought has to do exceedingly more makes this difficult to compare. Not to mention that a computer can "halt" it's "OS" in a way as to put all of it's resources into simply solving an equation. Unless it's told otherwise <---=KEY PART=- it can't convert that number into anything that can easily be translated. It also can't convert and tell us, unless told otherwise, how to get to that equation. It's a very basic switchboard, and at the moment we can't "emulate" the brain or consciousness because of this simplicity. It's just too hard.

No, the brain can't compute PI that quick. But given the circumstances of things it has to monitor, the things it has to be able to do just to interact on a conscious level, it's one ******* amazing piece of work.
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I'm not refuting the massive ability of the brain at all. I'm saying that the brain is better than a computer at some things (such as creativity), and worse at others (such as computing math).
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