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K, well I cranked down on the mount for ****s n giggles.

I've been running the torture test now for.... never mind, crashed. 5 minutes or so, I had one worker error, then when I stopped it, I crashed. I held solid at 51C on PC Probe, 40-41C on CoreTemp (no offset) , wouldn't budge higher. Sound about right?


I just dropped my vCore a tad to 1.375 and upped my memory voltage to 1.62V to help with stability. I also dropped my HT down a multiplier, I was at 2360 something, think thats bad. I'm at 2046Mhz now. Gonna run again. Anyways, so temps sound better? Reasonable at least?


My CPU is idling 1 degree higher than my motherboard, currently 33C and 32C respectively. I'm noticing my 12V rail is dropping from 12.07V to 11.91V under load.... bad? Vcore goes from 1.38 to 1.42, not sure why, I have everything disabled in BIOS.
Here's a thread with the latest news on 6 core CPU's from AMD http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/93...out-1090t.html
read it through and decide for yourself. PC Probe is the the CPU Socket temp which is what most gauge temps from. Myself (at least till the dust settles on this new topic) I'm still staying under 55c for the cpu socket temp.

You should see better results with that opening enlarged for more ail flow. I've heard the H50 and H70 are ok temp wise but I just installed a Rasa RS360 kit ($149.00) on my system and at 1.468 Vcore at 4139MHz my cpu socket temp never exceeds 54c (as a spike for 10 seconds) and averages between 48-51c under load with prime95 for 24 hrs. This should give you an idea of what is possible with a proper cooling loop.

As for applying TIM you might want to read this http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appm...e_dot_v1.1.pdf
personally I use the "Spread Method", a thin narrow line down the center than spread as thin as possible with a Mylar card.

The voltage fluctuation are a result of over volting by the mobo, normal.
As for prime failing, BSOD is usually a sign of lack of Vcore, while a failed worker is usually the sign you need more CPU/NB Voltage or Dram Voltage.

Hope this is of some help!
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'I pulled off my block and checked the TIM. It was almost fully covering the die, cept for the very outside edges. I put the tiniest dot extra on and just stuck it back on.'

What you have to do when reseating is clean the old AS5 off with 100%pure alcohol then apply fresh stuff.

there are lots different methods people use for this from my knowledge you want a pretty small amount, some people put a small blob, others do a small X, and then some get a credit card and drag a tiny amount of paste across.
I'm sure it's been done a million ways the trick is to keep it at a minimum.

The thermal paste is designed to fill microscopic gaps to help the heat transfer smoothly to your CPU cooler. The more you have the harder it is for the heat to move through as the AS5 transfers heat ok not as good as metal though, that's why you have some heat issues.

Clean it, reseat and it will eliminate your problems good luck
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@OP

Don't go by any 'you have to add 10-12c to the cores for correct temperatures'. You shouldn't be concerned with your core temperatures, this is not an Intel chip. You should only be concerned with you CPU socket temp.

The core temperatures are calculated algorithms and are not correct nor a good overall representation of the heat being produced.

It's preferred to use HWMonitor or PC Probe (if you have an ASUS board) by a lot of people as Core Temp, Speed Fan, and Real Temp don't work well with AMD (some people report good use but overall not as much).

Speed Fan sucks. I've never had any good things to say about nor experiences with it.

If you want cooler temps try to be sure your H50 is sucking air in to your case and not exhausting.
    
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What you have to do when reseating is clean the old AS5 off with 100%pure alcohol then apply fresh stuff.
Yes, I am aware of this, however the TIM is not cured and was quite fresh. It makes no sense to waste fresh TIM.


I will give it one more shot tommorow. I have little to no AS5 left right now, I've lent it out many times over the past year or two. Might have the dot sized amount that the AS website reccommends. I am extremely skeptical about that amount though. I will explain later, too tired, mildly drunk and need to crash for the night.
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Here's a thread with the latest news on 6 core CPU's from AMD http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/93...out-1090t.html
read it through and decide for yourself. PC Probe is the the CPU Socket temp which is what most gauge temps from. Myself (at least till the dust settles on this new topic) I'm still staying under 55c for the cpu socket temp.

Hope this is of some help!
That little piece of information there makes absolutely COMPLETE sense to me right now, this is EXACTLY the piece of information I was looking for. Thank you very much. +REP!
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I have the same MB, without my 90mm front bottom case fan on, the MB temp is ~25-26, with it on the temp is 16C, which must be about the air temp down on the floor. So I suggest you do as I did, and rig up a fan.
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I have the same MB, without my 90mm front bottom case fan on, the MB temp is ~25-26, with it on the temp is 16C, which must be about the air temp down on the floor. So I suggest you do as I did, and rig up a fan.
I have two antec spot fans for when I start sealing things up. Right now I'm open case, my ambient is 24C, I don't think 30C is at all unreasonable, thats only 80 degrees F, and under full load, I've never seen it exceed 33C. My H50 moves an incredible amount of air over the board right now. I also have my system in the basement, and it gets pretty warm down here when the heater kicks in, so with that in mind, I still feel this is nothing unreasonable.

Anyways, back to the topic. I took my chip and block into work, went to town with some Iso, cleaned them all up. Came back home and used the dot-spread method with a credit card. Right now I don't see any difference, and if at all its worse right now because I'm going over 50 quicker than last night. I'm gonna run it through a few thermal cycles, try and break it in a tad. We will see.
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NB chipsets are generally rated to handle up to 60c, if not more.
    
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Ok, I think most of my issues are taken care of now. A little more airflow around the socket will help even more. I have been running P95 for about 10 minutes solid, and I think I've hit the top of the Bell curve. Cpu temp is cycling between 52C and 56C, and mostly sitting at 54C. Can't figure out why its cycling like that, but at least its under control. I took the radiator completely out of the case, I knew I was getting a small airflow restriction from the grill on the back. It seems it was just enough to drop it into a comfortable range.

15 minutes now, P95, 4Ghz I will let it run for awhile. Also gonna turn off my damn heater here in the basement, it gets warm quick down here!

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So as per my last post, I think I figured out the cycling issue, and I think it has to do with LLC. I lasted about 45 minutes before crashing, I bumped up my NB voltage to 1.3....

I'm going to give it a shot, running with LLC disabled. I noticed even on startup, there is a considerable difference between BIOS and actual. I know I'm doing two steps at once here, but I think I can manage it.
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