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Nintendo has thought for years that cellphones would kill hand held game consoles. This is why they experimented with the gameboy phone a bunch of years ago.
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post
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I highly doubt that. The iPhone has been a huge success and sold millions upon millions of units. We could look it up but I would bet money the iPhone has sold more.

Also, this title is stupid, "killed hand held gaming" implies that there will be no more hand held gaming. If everyone is gaming on their iPhone then hand held gaming would be doing as good as ever.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ting_and_sales
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Units sold Worldwide: 144.59 million
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...er_quarter.svg
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Total sold: 73,734,000
That's 2x as many DSes out there.

I'm not saying the iPhone isn't widespread, just that the article is wrong to call the iPhone the most widespread handheld device.

Even if you include iPod Touches:
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/06/...er-45-million/
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the total number of iPod touch sold is 45.2 million.
I can't find any reliable figures for iPads, but most stuff is stating a couple of million, nothing as large as those figures.

Either way, the article isn't actually that insightful, from what I can see. The DS is, at the very least, just as widespread as apple's devices, with a better range of games, and more suited for the purpose.

I fully believe that we'll see phone gaming becoming more prominant, purely as the divide between different devices blurs - just as phones and PDAs merged before. There are still some massive hurdles in input to overcome, however, and until that day, Nintendo will have the upper hand with device design.

To be honest, I think Nintendo are the only ones that 'get' handheld gaming. Sony seem to think people just want a PS3 in their hands, which is flat-out-wrong, Phone developers seem to think people only want 'casual' games... Nintendo know what can work on a handheld console and do it pretty well.
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Better than those useless Sony and Nintendo toys that are only good for dumb Japanese games. And ports.
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To be honest, I think Nintendo are the only ones that 'get' handheld gaming. Sony seem to think people just want a PS3 in their hands, which is flat-out-wrong, Phone developers seem to think people only want 'casual' games... Nintendo know what can work on a handheld console and do it pretty well.
While I know what you mean but sometimes I have to disagree.

I don't believe they "get" portable gaming anymore than the next guy, I think they just have more experience and they know how to sell. They focus on either novelty ideas or classics that they can rehash to sell.
Dual screens, one for the game, one for touchscreen. Seems like a cool idea and is very appealing just thinking about it. I want one.
Touchscreen gaming that creates all these new ways to play (at the time) - I want one!
All your favorites like Mario, Zelda, and more! I want one!

Now they're on 3D with glasses free. I want one!

Nintendo knows how to sell. And they know how to sell to a large crowd, even if they have very little to sell worth mentioning. And there are quite a large number of DS games that you wish weren't even in existence, yet alone want to play. Meanwhile, on the PSP front - there are way more worth mentioning that aren't just fun to play but can be considered as classic full-tiered AAA games.

The "PS3 in your hands" idea isn't all that bad really. It has potential. The SEGA Nomad is a perfect example. They literally made the Sega Genesis portable, in every essence of the word - and nothing made my tiny little heart glow more than playing Sonic on the go just like I could at home during that time.
Many people enjoy having full sized gaming experiences on the go. Thats why PSP was modified alot, aside from piracy - the homebrew allowed emulation of practically anything under the sun that could be emulated decently. The trick is how they can combine the "on-the-go" with the "at-home" gaming. Things like when you can stop and save, or accessibility of pick up to play, needs to be addressed properly with alot of games.

I think Nintendo is going for the gold though better. When I see "full" games like Resident Evil Revelations or Ocarina of Time - I have faith in Nintendo to do portable gaming better than the DS. The DS.... didn't do portable gaming justice imo.
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While I know what you mean but sometimes I have to disagree.

I don't believe they "get" portable gaming anymore than the next guy, I think they just have more experience and they know how to sell. They focus on either novelty ideas or classics that they can rehash to sell.
Dual screens, one for the game, one for touchscreen. Seems like a cool idea and is very appealing just thinking about it. I want one.
Touchscreen gaming that creates all these new ways to play (at the time) - I want one!
All your favorites like Mario, Zelda, and more! I want one!

Now they're on 3D with glasses free. I want one!

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The "PS3 in your hands" idea isn't all that bad really. It has potential. The SEGA Nomad is a perfect example. They literally made the Sega Genesis portable, in every essence of the word - and nothing made my tiny little heart glow more than playing Sonic on the go just like I could at home during that time.
Many people enjoy having full sized gaming experiences on the go. Thats why PSP was modified alot, aside from piracy - the homebrew allowed emulation of practically anything under the sun that could be emulated decently. The trick is how they can combine the "on-the-go" with the "at-home" gaming. Things like when you can stop and save, or accessibility of pick up to play, needs to be addressed properly with alot of games.

I think Nintendo is going for the gold though better. When I see "full" games like Resident Evil Revelations or Ocarina of Time - I have faith in Nintendo to do portable gaming better than the DS. The DS.... didn't do portable gaming justice imo.
I just don't think most console games work well on a handheld, the experience is different.

Maybe it's just because I see handheld gaming as a different thing, and different types of games suit it more. RPGs and general timesinks which and good with long car journeys, etc...

As to how many rubbish DS games there are... yeah, that's true, but there are still more good ones out there than for anything else handheld.
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