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I was told by another OCN member that OC-ing a non black edition Phenom II has better performance than a black edition OC because with a non black edition CPU you ramp up the CPU and the NB. Though I understand how this could be the case, how much better would it be? And yes it would take alot more tinkering, but I'm never one to shy away from tinkering.
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You arent going to notice any substantial gains.
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I was told by another OCN member that OC-ing a non black edition Phenom II has better performance than a black edition OC because with a non black edition CPU you ramp up the CPU and the NB. Though I understand how this could be the case, how much better would it be? And yes it would take alot more tinkering, but I'm never one to shy away from tinkering.
The only difference between a Black Edition and the normal ones is that the Black Edition has unlocked multiplier making it easier to OC. There is really no difference in performance whatsoever.

At the end of the day a non-black requires you to fiddle around with the BIOS a bit more.
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But is probably is better than the simply black edition unlock and OC right? IF THIS IS THE CASE...I say if. Then why all the hype about BE?
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Performance should be negligable... Because any good overclocker with the black edition will also change the ram multi to increase the ram speed too. Thus narrowing any difference the higher bus speed will have. Is it technically faster? Yes. But good luck seeing it with the naked eye.

The hype is that the multi is unlocked, so even the cheapest mobo, has a good chance of running a good overclock. And correct me if im wrong, but i think the black editions are binned higher too.
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But is probably is better than the simply black edition unlock and OC right? IF THIS IS THE CASE...I say if. Then why all the hype about BE?
Because it's "OCing made easy"

All you have to do is ramp up the multiplier. x14>x16>x18 oh yay i overclocked.
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they are essentially the same chips. its just that a black edition has an unlocked multiplier and is easier to overclock, however if your not an OC noob then the standard edition is just as overclockable as a black edition.
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Ah ok I see. I'm kinda an OC newb, but I'm no noob to tinkering and experimentation on computers.
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Ah ok I see. I'm kinda an OC newb, but I'm no noob to tinkering and experimentation on computers.
You should experiment and make mistakes, that's how you learn.
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BE is the OC'ing For Dummies edition. Not that it is a bad thing. It just makes things easier. And you can always tweak the HTRef clock with a BE chip as well. You could even OC a BE chip completely without even touching the multi, but that kind of defeats the purpose of it all.
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