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It's so dericious....
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Sorry I missed your GPU thread! Looks great and glad you got it sorted out, I would've sent you that check for it Enjoy the rig, can't wait to see more pics!
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I figure I might as well consolidate all of my threads once again and stick it back in here.

For anyone who can answer at least one of my questions, please feel free to chime in because I basically can't do anything right now.

I've done some research on overclocking and I have general knowledge in some areas and some better knowledge in other areas. You'll see what I mean in my coming explanations.

O/C GOALS:

100% stable overclocks for long durations. Absolutely no sacrifice of MTBF (mean time before failure). That is, I do want to get my moneys worth, but I do not want to drastically shorten the lifespan of my chips.

CPU: As far as I can push on 1.35v.
RAM: 2200MHz with increased timings.
GPU: Increased core clock/shader/memory.

PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS:

I've been working through the weekend on my CPU overclock. I reached a healthy 4.4GHz at 1.35v without any issues whatsoever and a cool 50C maximum, idling in the mid 20s and low 30s. I started this overclock by just increasing the multiplier. I was very noob at this point and didn't have any monitoring programs so I can't tell you anything past that. I then changed my mind and instead of doing a 32x multiplier to reach 4.4GHz, I changed the BCLK to 200MHz and the multiplier to 22x. I thought it was running perfectly fine to be completely honest. I was browsing through CPU-Z and saw my QPI link was at 3.6GHz and my NB was at 3.4GHz. I still have no idea whether that is too much or not. I am VERY nervous when it comes to NB because I don't have a waterblock on my motherboard, so any heat allocated there will scare me. So that is still a concern with me and that is the #1 reason holding me back from overclocking my CPU right now. I reset the BIOS back to stock settings for my CPU until I can further learn about that. Here's an image of the result of an increased bus speed. Take a look at the NB frequency, is that normal?



I also overclocked my GPUs. I originally had started small, slowly increasing core speed/shader/memory in EVGA Precision. I kept amping it up until I finally crashed in Black Ops at 950/2120, 1.,1v. Then I went back down to 940/2110 and it crashed again after a few minutes, which it didn't do before. I lowered it all the way down to 900/2100 at 1.1v and it still crashed, even after plenty of successful runs through BlackOps at 900MHz core frequency it still crashed on me. This confused me and I once again put this back to stock settings to avoid the crashing.

RAM is another story here as I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to that. It appears to me that RAM is the most difficult to overclock because there are timings and about 6,000 different voltages to worry about. Not to mention the fact that the BCLK affects RAM and I don't know if it was possible for me to overclock the RAM to 2200MHz and achieve halfway decent timings.

CONCLUSION:

Essentially, here is what I would like to achieve:

CPU: 4.4GHz @ 1.35v through a 200BCLK and 22x multiplier.
RAM: 2200MHz with lowest possible timings (perhaps 8-8-8-24?) WHILE BEING COMPLETELY STABLE.
GPU: 920MHz core, 2100 memory if possible.

As of right now, the only thing truly holding me back from achieving the CPU clock is the fact that my QPI was at 3.6GHz and my NB was at 3.4GHz and I just don't know if that's normal. I believe my NB is default at 2.8GHz.

Holding me back from overclocking the RAM is the voltage confusion. I have no idea what affects the RAM overclock, nor do I know how high I should be going. The LAST thing I want to do is burn something out trying to achieve a stable overclock. It also confuses me because I don't know how to achieve 2200MHz with a 200BCLK in the BIOS. The only close options available are 2005 MHz and then something beyond 2400MHz.

Holding me back from the GPU is the fact that the computer crashed about 5 times while attempting this, even when it was previously stable at 920MHz/2100...this also confused me.

If anyone could offer any help regarding my specific situation, I would really appreciate it. Please don't point me to some "overclocking guide" unless it explains exactly how to overclock RAM. I am certainly open to viewing overclocking guides but most of the ones I have seen explain broadly what to look for and how to do it, not very much into specifics.

Either way, anything would help and I would really appreciate anything you could do for me, especially when it comes to my exact specs here.

Thanks.
Edited by xyeLz - 2/22/11 at 2:54am
post #114 of 131
I would try a bit less on the GPU memory, and push the core. The 580s are good >900, my 570 is humming at 910/1820/2000, so I'd look for a bit more than that out of your card, but not too much more.

920 certainly could be a line for your cards, but I'd lower the memory to stock or at least <=2000 and try the core again. 1.1v is fine, I wouldn't go past 1.15 though (and honestly 1.1 is where I'd max), even with the 580.

Can't help with the CPU, I have no experience with the new chips
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Thanks SC. That helps a bit with the GPU issue but I think that is going to be the last one I touch to be honest. I'd like to start with finishing everything in the BIOS.

The stock markers for my EVGA Superclocked 580s are 797/2025 so the memory is already past 2000. I figured that 2100 wouldn't be too much. I'll have to experiment but yeah, I'd like to start learning about the CPU/RAM overclock first.

The fact that all I've read is people saying "keep NB at about 2.4GHz" is astonishing to me as mine is stock at 2.8?
post #116 of 131
The memory will be tough to achieve 2200 without significantly cutting timings i.e. out past 11. Although the memory will easily acheive the rated specs, you will be limited by the memory controller on the 980x. The memory controller is designed to run at 1066 or 1333 (can't remember which), so you're overclocking it massively to attempt to get to 2200. To do so you'll have to bump qpi/vtt voltage massively and it'll probably be out of range of what you consider to be healthy for 24/7.

Personally I would settle for running it at 1600-1800 with lower timings e.g. 6-6-6-18, 7-7-7-20 or 8-8-8-24 ish

For reference I've got 2000MHz to run at 1964MHz on a 980x, but I use a QPI of 1.39V
     
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One more thing, I wouldn't worry about the north bridge frequency, I could be confused and don't have time to look it up but 980x tends to run it at 1.5x the memory frequency vs 2x for other i7s. I.E you're stressing it far less than a 920 would. Anything below 4GHz shouldn't even phase it.

I seem to remember you have an R3E. IF you do I would replace the TIM on the north bridge, it's renowned for being a POS. A waterblock is unneccesary, particularly for the kind of clocks you're going for.
     
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Amazing build! After I start getting my watercooling parts I'll be doing a nice build log myself of my M8 :-D
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Thanks

I currently have a running thread in the Intel CPU forum about my overclocking but if anyone here would like to help I would really appreciate it:

CPU: 4.4GHz, 22x200BCLK, 1.35v, 1.88PLL
RAM: 2005MHz, 9-10-9-27, 1.60v, 1.35QPI

My primary issue is that my RAM will not budge. I boost the voltage up to 1.656, 1.40QPI with a single lower timing and the computer won't boot. I tried 9-9-9-27 without luck on multiple occasions. I am not sure if I am missing a setting or something but it's really starting to bug me and I have no idea why it's being like that.

Yeah yeah, I'm complaining about 1 timing, but still, this is OCN after all and I would like some assistance!
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Wow this build came out amazing! Even better than I thought it would
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