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Ok , i have taken some weeks of from OCing this chip becuase this board was driving me insane. UD7 to be exact, from what i have read flashing the back up bios to the desired bios of your choice will alleviate the headache from random BIOS checksum errors, and rolling reboot cycles, when doing anything associated with OCing? I have done this currently using f8x. Before i start, just gonna make sure i am starting off right when it comes to this board and the BIOS setting associated.

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I will be starting with my setting i found pretty stable at my x46 Multiplier that was using pretty close to stock voltages, one question that i have never had answered and has been bothering me is when do i start using LLC level 1 and 2 ? And also when do i Enable CPU PLL over-voltage ?

I know people have been getting great results with this board but for some reason it has been a thorn in my side, i want to like this board but it has proved very difficult !
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There have been some people who have had problems with corrupt backup BIOS after flashing the backup chip with a newer BIOS, so i'd be a little careful when doing that.

Now onto the meat of the matter:

LLC 1/2 can be used when ever you want. For example i use 1.285v and LLC 1 for my 4.5Ghz overclock. Nice and stable. So it's really to be used when ever you find it useful. I've found LLC 2 to be very useful when going for anything over 5Ghz and less useful under 5Ghz.

PLL overvoltage is a little different. I have reduced the PLL to 1.72 which shaves 1c or so off the core temps @ 4.5Ghz, but still have a mega stable overclock. On my 5.5Ghz overclock i require 1.96v PLL to have it bootable and benchmark stable using the f7e BIOS. 5.4Ghz for example requires 1.94v PLL and anything over or under that will not let me boot my system.

I havn't had a chance to test the f8x BIOS yet, but i've heard it can increase your overall multiplier to 58x which sounds like a nice challenge.
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I'm using the ud7 board. Bios f8x is working well for me. All power saving features on. I changed multi, vcore, dimm (as well as downclocked to 1333), and opted for llc2 and turned off turbo.

My last 2 blend runs:




Stock bios wouldn't even post multi 50 only 49 but when I reflashed to f8x the board came to life.
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I honestly just wanna lock in a stable 5ghz and i will be done. From the temps and voltages used on my 4.6 this seems very within reach.

I appreciate the response and would appreciate further hand holding through this process ha ha , i have just had a nightmare with this board.
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I'm using the ud7 board. Bios f8x is working well for me. All power saving features on. I changed multi, vcore, dimm (as well as downclocked to 1333), and opted for llc2 and turned off turbo.

My last 2 blend runs:




Stock bios wouldn't even post multi 50 only 49 but when I reflashed to f8x the board came to life.
Did you also have problems with the reversions back to f3, bios check-sum errors, and reboot cycles when OCing? It was making me want to pull my hair out! and to top it off this was even happening on OCs that were stable in OCCT for hours!
Also were you using easytune6 for the voltage manipulation and just increasing multi in BIOS or were you doing everything in BIOS?
Edited by sockpirate - 2/12/11 at 11:35am
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Well i havent had trouble so far with annoying rolling reboots or BIOS checksum errors!!! This is a big plus and i am very pleased!

Now i have started pursuing the 5ghz OC

currently been running into BSODs but i am able to get into windows albeit for only a few seconds before the BSOD.
Started with 1.400vcore and i am working my way up , going to test my fourth vcore increase now here in a bit it will be 1.415, post temps are idling nicely at around 35c when getting into windows for that short time. When should i stop increasing Vcore? i have read at about 1.5 if you wanna be safe?
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Well i havent had trouble so far with annoying rolling reboots or BIOS checksum errors!!! This is a big plus and i am very pleased!

Now i have started pursuing the 5ghz OC

currently been running into BSODs but i am able to get into windows albeit for only a few seconds before the BSOD.
Started with 1.400vcore and i am working my way up , going to test my fourth vcore increase now here in a bit it will be 1.415, post temps are idling nicely at around 35c when getting into windows for that short time. When should i stop increasing Vcore? i have read at about 1.5 if you wanna be safe?
The best advice I could give is try 1.5v and 5.0Ghz. If you're unable to boot, you probably have a faulty board or a bad CPU.
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No problems w/revisions and rollbacks. I did notice that when I had failed overclocks the system will cycle 2 times on/off like you need a cmos clear. But on the 3rd reboot the screen pops up that I had a failed oc attempt. From there I was able to get into bios and all that was reverted was my multipler [set to 100 x 33]. So, I just readjusted the multi to what I wanted and made best guesses at what vcore I needed to make my oc work. Before I figured this out I would clear cmos right away and that was annoying as fahk.....

My best advice is get bios f8x. Then in bios change your multi to 50, vcore 1.45, and dimm voltage if you need to [also consider running ram at 1333]. Set llc to 2. Boot up windows if you can, open up cpuz, real temp, and et6. Start prime95 blend and slowly work your vcore down if you can. For 5ghz I'd think 1.42-1.48 [under load]is reasonable but everyone is different.

Edit: I see ur running 2000 speed for ram. Give 1866 or 1600 a shot or loosen timings and switch turbo off for memory management. I'm betting right now your ram is fubarring something. Not that it's bad ram but when you start boosting the multiplier my ram became the unstable variable as product of elimination.

Edit 2: I can't fahkin read and now see youre at ddr3 1600 9-9-9-24. Drop to 1333 same timings and see if stability goee up lol. My bad I'm being pulled in all directions atm....

I think I'm gonna grab 4gb of 2133 speed ram and underclock them to 1866 and see if I can pull off my current oc's. I wanna hear from some ppl who are running 5+ ghz oc's with ram running at 1866 or higher (and what voltages theyre running at). I could buy a crappy timed set of 2133's at 1.5volts and underclock, undervolt, and maybe even tighen timings...hmmmmm

Anyways, keep us posted
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The best advice I could give is try 1.5v and 5.0Ghz. If you're unable to boot, you probably have a faulty board or a bad CPU.
I see, i will limit my testing to those parameters for now and update this thread accordingly. I still have a while to go before i reach 1.5v


As for the BIOS problems i described , they seem to be remedied at this point when i flashed the back up bios to the same version as the main bios.

I will keep you guys updated. I really appreciate the help. On a side not i really hope i can lock in this 5.0 OC i will be ordering my water cool set up here soon !


EDIT:Yeah Tracks system he is running 2kmhz RAM and running a 5.1 OC , beastly stats!!! Might wanna talk to him, my ram is running at 1333 so i dont think it is a factor at the moment. I will keep you updated though.
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The best advice I could give is try 1.5v and 5.0Ghz. If you're unable to boot, you probably have a faulty board or a bad CPU.
Should i just save myself some time by going straight to the 1.5v right off the bat ? See if its stable and work my Vcore down from there instead of working my way up from 1.4?
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