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thanks for the many replies, really appreciate it guys!

@Phos I am using Arctic MX-4 thermal paste, used some for the spacers as well but only tiny bit so the spacers would keep in position...might have applied to much TIM on the GPU's?

@sgilmore62; it looks they are properly inserted, though could try if it is sort of a connection problem.

@lights in the dark, if it would be the case, would this mean the board is gone?

@hli53194; tried it several time and the 6 and 8 pin are in fully ;-) thanks
    
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Originally Posted by LightsInTheDark;12366754 
AS5 IS conductive. When applying apply it to the chip and only the chip lol get it on any pcb itl shortcircuit.

It's not conductive but it is capacitive, so while it won't break anything it can keep it from working.

MX-4 is supposedly not conductive or capacitive, so I'm out of ideas.
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thanks for the info that's what it says on the packaging as well but it leaves me no other way then to remove the block check with the stock cooler if the card is okay and then re apply the waterblock, the mobo, CPU and ram all show green lights and that is working so i assume the mobo CPU and ram is out of question...I also unscrewed and screwed again the backplate just to make sure not to over-tighten anything...bugga
    
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What block are you using? If ek make sure that you put that paper plate between the block and pcb that might be causing a short if not attached
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I used the thermal pads between the block and chips as in the manual stated.
However i can confirm it is damaged after disassemble and when i wanted to remove the block one of the chip broke off due to the TIM i added on the chip and it was the chip which did not have the stepping.
I made a mistake, a costly one and i was quite upset.

Two thing I have noticed:

1. I should not put ANY TIM between the chips and the thermal pads, that stuff (Arctic MX 4) is sticking too much on it an Chips are prone to break like i just experienced (even though the manual states to make the pads more adhesive add small amount of TIM, I think this is not to recommend and would refrain from such thing.
2. My mistake I did I thought to add one more 0.55mm pad on the chip which was leveled and did not have a higher step then the other chips, mistake though because after inspecting the block I could see that the entire row of the chips next to it did not hav contact, assuming I should not have added the second pad...
3. Really make sure and double check after screwing the block on to unscrew it and check contact (as in the manual described correctly)
4. looks like over-tightened screws as well on the named chip which would be caused easily if there is one layer of pad too much :-(

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good thing, i use a spare oleder 9800GT now and the CPU temps by 27 C are excellent with 30C max idle ;-)

here some pic and thanks for all your help!! Cheers
    
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I have the following issue continuing on the problem above...

Now I have purchased and received a new XFX HD 5970 Black Edition 2GB, since I thought that i have damaged maybe the first card.

The card has never been used, this is the first time i used it, the card is not modified.
I installed the new XFX in the 1st PCI Express slot as pre manual and before I removed the 9800GT from this slot.

I received the same red error message on startup before I can enter BIOS even, like with the HIS.
The message reads that there is no sufficient power plugged in the VGA card, please refer to the quick start guide/settings guide.

The 1000Watt PSU has sufficient power to power even two hd5970 cards so i dont understand why i get this red message on screen and asking to check the power t othe VGA card...

It means that both 5970 dont work in any PCIE slot i plug in, but the 9800GT card does work and the system boots into BIOS, OS, working just fine no BSOD whatsoever.

I assume there is an issue with the Motherboard since both cards with the same model (HD5970) give me the error message and the 9800GT from Gigabyte does work and it worked before also with the older HIS HD 5970 card

The following I have tried:
a different CM 1000Watt PSU
single individual cables from the PSU to VGA card 6 & 8 pin plugs
additional single PCIE 6 & 8 pin cabsle from the PSU
All PCIE slots with all three cards
higher voltage on the PCI with 1.51.. standard voltage in BIOS (not in AUTO mode)
loading default BIOS settings with the 9800GT card and then changing to the hd5970 if its working, but it also failed to boot up
I can see the red light indicating an error on the ASUS board
I changed the PCIE lane switches to on and off to no luck but I have noticed that when it was on first with the 5970 plugged in and then powering on the system and then switching it to off the fans started to increase to maximum and staying there, not sure whether this info helps though.
Lan switches with the 9800GT do work properly, all of them

Remember, before the older HIS card with stock cooler was working on the board! the 9800GT still works though...
I dont get any error message in BIOS or OS nor BSOD when using the Win7 64 Bit OS with the 9800GT indicating an error with the ASUS board

Anyone having the same problem or am i alone, I am desperate guys...? I have two HD5970 cards and both are not working now, any suggestions? BIOS update? any other mobo fix?

Thanks, appreciated...
    
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