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Next up: Who needs 20TB SSD Server?

Talk about overkill
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Next up: Who needs 20TB SSD Server?

Talk about overkill
Well Within 10 years I will have a 1 Petabyte server... Hopefully SSD! mmmm.... 1,000 Terabytes.... Im certain that within 10 years they will have figured out how to make a 100TB hard drive.. I just need ten of those..

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/hdd...ive,11048.html

From the article... Im kinda excited just thinking about it now... my Phenom2 x6 will live on as a 1 Petabyte server in 4-5 years.. Much like the Pentium 4 thats in my server now is a repurposed gaming CPU.

"Re declined to pinpoint the potential of HAMR exactly, but said that Seagate currently expects a soft limit to arrive at about 50 Tb/inch2. If the 3.5” HDD form factor survives, then we should see PMR to top out at about 5-6 TB per drive. With roughly 50x the potential of PMR, HAMR should lead the way beyond 100 TB drives and possibly into the region of 200 – 300 TB in the 2020 to 2025 time frame."
Edited by fg2chase - 2/21/11 at 8:53pm
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Well Within 10 years I will have a 1 Petabyte server... Hopefully SSD! mmmm.... 1,000 Terabytes....
That's alot of HD porn..
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IF you are going to have more than one physical server I would go with a rack...
they are going to be going in a rack cabinet but will just be two PC cases stood on a shelf in it
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I read this entire post because WHS is a really great product from MS. I like to refer to it as an appliance; plug it up then forget about it. It just works.

I did what you basically have done;however, I'm currently ditching WHS. I ran WHS on a P4 as well when I was evaluating it. I even built two P4 WHS servers for a few of my friends

I think Most of you guys that have less the 10 TB of storage should really give it a shot(30 day eval!). I Have ran this software for over a year on a 1.8ghz single core 939 with 512MB ram flawlessly. The processor stayed at 100% usage quite a bit, but I never seen any ill effects on the front end HTPC's playing media from it.

Don't get me wrong. I love WHS, but it is a blessing and a curse all in one.
Blessing concerns how damn easy everything is on it. It is easy to add disk, remove disk, duplicate, control users, make shares, use automated back ups, use client monitoring and etc. When it comes to a Home Server/NOS system, WHS wins hands down when you compare ease of use + available capabilities together.


The curse is however the 100% resource overhead concerning redundancy.
I know you can place a HW RAID below the OS, but it wasn't designed to be used like that. There are a few other little tricks to achieve raid like features in WHS as well, but i'm not a big fan of any of them.

I figured that MS would address this redundancy issue in WHS 2, and present a easy one button upgrade from WHS to WHS 2. I waited for about 6 months with code name "vail" being thrown around here and there. Well, when Microsoft finally announced a release quarter for WHS 2 and that they were ditching Drive Extender in WHS2. I decided to Ditch WHS. I moved to an unRAID server. My biggest regret is........ Network speeds. The way that unRAID does parity I lost a lot of the transfer speeds that WHS really spoiled me with. I also find myself missing some of the bells and whistles that WHS had.

Anyway,
Really cool home media setup you have.
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I read this entire post because WHS is a really great product from MS. I like to refer to it as an appliance; plug it up then forget about it. It just works.

I did what you basically have done;however, I'm currently ditching WHS. I ran WHS on a P4 as well when I was evaluating it. I even built two P4 WHS servers for a few of my friends

I think Most of you guys that have less the 10 TB of storage should really give it a shot(30 day eval!). I Have ran this software for over a year on a 1.8ghz single core 939 with 512MB ram flawlessly. The processor stayed at 100% usage quite a bit, but I never seen any ill effects on the front end HTPC's playing media from it.

Don't get me wrong. I love WHS, but it is a blessing and a curse all in one.
Blessing concerns how damn easy everything is on it. It is easy to add disk, remove disk, duplicate, control users, make shares, use automated back ups, use client monitoring and etc. When it comes to a Home Server/NOS system, WHS wins hands down when you compare ease of use + available capabilities together.


The curse is however the 100% resource overhead concerning redundancy.
I know you can place a HW RAID below the OS, but it wasn't designed to be used like that. There are a few other little tricks to achieve raid like features in WHS as well, but i'm not a big fan of any of them.

I figured that MS would address this redundancy issue in WHS 2, and present a easy one button upgrade from WHS to WHS 2. I waited for about 6 months with code name "vail" being thrown around here and there. Well, when Microsoft finally announced a release quarter for WHS 2 and that they were ditching Drive Extender in WHS2. I decided to Ditch WHS. I moved to an unRAID server. My biggest regret is........ Network speeds. The way that unRAID does parity I lost a lot of the transfer speeds that WHS really spoiled me with. I also find myself missing some of the bells and whistles that WHS had.

Anyway,
Really cool home media setup you have.
I feel the same way man, I was having media playback problems before I upgraded my network from fast ethernet to gigabit. I thought it was the processor but nope, it was that 100mb bottleneck.

I love the bells and whistles too, I will be switching from WHS v1 around Q1 2014 im thinking... And I will just go to a regular version of Windows Server most likely Server 2008 R2.
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Amazing 20Tb I look up to you man I only have 11TB only half way there. Kudos on the server.
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thanks man
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a must read for WHS guys....

http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...rver-2011.aspx

Well Paul, I intend to keep using the current version of WHS... until it goes tits up or until 2014!
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I don't think I actually cared about any of those features mentioned as a "plus" for the new 2011 version. But then I don't even have data duplication enabled on my server because I'm running so low on space. I did care about adding/removing drives at a whim though. But then I was also using my WHS box as an also-ran Windows box for things like video encoding and VM experiments when my main desktop is too busy. I think what I'm trying to say is...I'm staying with v.1 or switching to linux for a server.
 
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