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Ok so i'm trying to design my ultimate build and then make a step by step upgrade process and i'm going to reward myself with upgrades for other work life efforts... lol i know.

Ok so I'm really looking atm to watercool my puter but i'm stuck at the moment on radiators and how many I shall need? I have seen some systems with triple loops is this completely unnecessary or only if you have quad gfx cards? I'd like to watercool as many parts as possible for maximum OC stability.

What I need to know from you gurus is how many of what size rads I need for a high end wc system. I plan to upgrade this thing to the best and keep it there as i'm in the process of using the computer for business and want it to be FAST.

Do I need a radiator for each loop? Do I need 3 loops? What size radiators?

Also trying to minimise wasted parts on the way to high end rig so i'm currently running my 1090t at 4Ghz on the stock cooler
Edited by trimak - 2/13/11 at 1:14am
post #2 of 14
You won't even come close to using 3 loops if you only have 1 CPU, 1 mobo, 1 GPU.

If you're sticking with that setup or maybe having 2 GPUs. I would recommend the Corsair 800d. It can fit 360mm + 140mm rad without doing any modifications. And... Your rig would look kewl on WC with it xD


Now, if you're gonna be upgrading to quad SLI. Then I suggest buying a case from Mountain Mods. Their watercooling cases can fit LOTS of radiators. And I mean LOTS
    
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Can you please say at least what you plan to put under water?
Cpu? Gpus? what kind? Motherboard?

Usually a single 360 radiator will be enough for a CPU and a single GPU loop, depends on what fans you are using.
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With 1 CPU and 1 GPU, I would just get one loop and as many 120mm radiators I could to fit it. Then get an air cooled for the memory just for maximum temperature reduction.
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get the nzxt phantom....killer looks,awesome cooling,wc support.....
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Ok well I pretty much want to overclock anything that is necessary for the best stability in overclocking. Does that mean perhaps 2xgpu, 1cpu, all the ram sticks, north bridge, south bridge, mosfets?

If I was trying to OC my rig as far as I can what would I be looking to watercool and how many rads would I need for that is what im trying to work out and yes don't look at my current setup because ill probably hop over to intel later on when $ is not important. what I need to know is how much RAD i need so I can then look at airflow and case designs but or now just how much rad I would need before it becomes pointless
post #7 of 14
Ram wc is not worth the money or trouble. You can easily put one loop with cpu, and motherboard. I would go with a second loop for the gpus.
That being said, I had all those things on a single loop with no issues. I had dual rads (one 360 and one 240) and my gpus were GTS 250 which were not heat mongers by any stretch of the imagination.
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Last I knew the motherboard for AMD processors doesn't get all that hot aside from the VRM area. If you're doing 2x GPU & 1x CPU you could get away with one loop but the temps might be a little high unless you're running some good radiator/fans. If nothing else get a Hyper212+ from newegg if you're on a budget now - then WC later.
For a water cooling case - the 800d is popular and Case Labs here in the forums has what seems to be an awesome product coming (I'll get mine next week and let everyone know).
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post #9 of 14
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Heaps appreciated guys So would I be doing the right thing at the moment in getting like an XSPC Rasa 750 RX360 kit? Custom loops just don't seem to have tangible benefits as far as i've been led to believe.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?...ducts_id=16617

So as far as i'm thinking at the moment i'm looking for a case that will fit 2x360 rads in anticipation for a mobo+cpu and gpu loop.

I quite like the 800d as i want a window had it looks pretty sharp but does it fit dual 360 rads?

EDIT: one of the reasons I wanted to watercool the motherboard is I have one of those faulty UD3 that tells me my northbridge is 80C right from startup but at this point im not worried as I have put a HR05 on it http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...r_hr05_ifx.htm
Edited by trimak - 2/13/11 at 3:50pm
post #10 of 14
I plan to watercool with the same XSPC kit. And negotiated a deal to buy a used ATCS 840 from a member here.
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