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Well I've played a number of games at 60hz and 120hz; Bad Company 2, UT3, TF2, Quake Live, Battlefield Heroes, CoD4/W@W/MW2, & Enemy Territory: Quake Wars

None have needed the "edge" of 120hz or been that different with it.

True 120hz's biggest advantage for some (those that want it mostly) is 3D Gaming.
As far as that being a gimmick or not, I say it's not, as it can be fun if it's properly implemented or executed.
Most of the time, it's not.
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Well there's a couple of fast paced games.

You're right. You don't need the edge of a 120hz monitor, unless you play in comp.

It all boils down to enjoyment. For me, I can't stand 60hz in faster games (though slower ones are fine even at 40FPS). Doesn't mean that I'm well above average. Doesn't mean that I only use 110hz for the advantage. No. I use high hz because it makes the experience that much more enjoyable.

You never need a high quality anything. You could use a 1024x768 15" LCD for gaming just as well as the U2410. You don't need the color quality and added resolution. Though having them is certainly enjoyable.
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Well in some regards, you do need a better monitor, as using a poor quality monitor (especially those with low contrast ratio's) can make playing a game hard.
Especially games that take advantage for dark textures laying on one another.

Color & Contrast ratio can directly effect game play, depending on the game.

Even on a competitive cycle, I doubt 120hz makes much of a difference. If it did, we would see more competitive players using 120hz monitors.
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post #24 of 188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot;14013800 
Even on a competitive cycle, I doubt 120hz makes much of a difference. If it did, we would see more competitive players using 120hz monitors.

Even though I don't play in comp myself (never would like the style of play), I thought that most of them did use either 120hz or CRT monitors.


You saying a poor contrast ratio would be worse than a low hz in games? I mean, let's take quake 3. Poor contrast ratio would be tolerable. (Besides, you can always increase the gamma) Something with 60hz and two frames of input lag (like the U2410 AFAIK) would make it extremely difficult compared to the 120hz monitors to play.
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post #25 of 188
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Most folks in competitive play use CRT's but they are generally 75-85hz models. Some actually shell out money for models like the NEC Multisync FE1250 or Sony Trinitron FWD900; but that's very few and far between.

Competitive players are more concerned with input lag than 120hz. Which is why we see so many monitors being advertised with their "Revolutionary 2ms Input Delay" (or whatever other wording the company chooses.)

For Quake 4/ET:QW, contrast ratio's will not be important. For a game like the F.E.A.R. Series though, contrast ratio's were important, as playing on a poor monitor made it almost impossible to navigate around.
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post #26 of 188
I have never seen anything but 2ms response time being advertised that way. Input lag is not something I see in monitor specs.

Never played FEAR. Wouldn't have known.

Still might wanna put a few comments there about it making faster paced games more enjoyable. Because that's pretty much how it works.
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post #27 of 188
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16:10 is recommended for an ergonomics reason. It's been shown through tests that our eyes adjust to that aspect ratio better.
16:9 was only adopted because it's cheaper to make and easier to market. (Because then they can say FULL HD 1080p)
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Somehow, i still liked my old 1600x1200 21inch CRT with 120hz smile.gif
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post #29 of 188
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I love my 85hz 1920x1440 CRT and 120hz 1920x1200 CRT.

They are just huge, and run VERY hot.

I probably won't be going back to CRT's for that reason. I'll stick to LCD's. I'm most likely gonna get a Dell U2711 as an upgrade.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot;14014027 
16:10 is recommended for an ergonomics reason. It's been shown through tests that our eyes adjust to that aspect ratio better.
16:9 was only adopted because it's cheaper to make and easier to market. (Because then they can say FULL HD 1080p)

Entirely depends on monitor size and distance tbh.

Though, could you link me those studies? I'd be interested to see what sort of pseudo science they used to explain their point of view.

Though the resolution difference is a valid point. However, if this was the reasoning, it should be separetly explained.

Even though I myself prefer widescreen ratios, it doesn't mean they are automatically better. They have advantages and disadvantages.

I use a 4:3 as my main though, because I appreciate the image quality. Actually, I have two. I'm looking to get a third one to get rid of the limited feel in games with 4:3 by using eyefinity
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Originally Posted by 1337LutZ;14014029 
Somehow, i still liked my old 1600x1200 21inch CRT with 120hz smile.gif

Good 21" CRT monitors go to 2048x1536 at 75-90hz. My F520 does 85hz and my P1220 does 80hz. II vastly prefer them to my LCD monitors (24" TN panels). And I would only go LCD if I could get a U3011, but I'm too poor for that.

If your was a good model and only went to 1600x1200, you had something there preventing you from going higher. Lack of drivers is one thing. Intergrated graphis is another. Locked EDID also causes issues from time to time, even though the monitors could do higher. (CCC pretty much randomly decides what the EDID limits me to every time I install new drivers. Issue is mine, and don't know if any others have it)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tator Tot;14014053 
I love my 85hz 1920x1440 CRT and 120hz 1920x1200 CRT.

They are just huge, and run VERY hot.

I probably won't be going back to CRT's for that reason. I'll stick to LCD's. I'm most likely gonna get a Dell U2711 as an upgrade.

lol. CRTs are the only way that a poor fella like me can get good image quality. That's why I use them. Besides, I kinda like the CRT look for casual purposes that I use my PC for. If I was a photoshopper, I'd prefer LCD TBH, but I like the CRT look for what I do.
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