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why did this thread have to turn into a mac/pc arguement
Because of idiots like me.
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why did this thread have to turn into a mac/pc arguement

There can be no arguments smile.gif See pic above.

Its all Quality+Quantity vs Brand name.
Thats all Apple is- a name.
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Personally I thought this was just a troll thread, nothing the OP says makes any sense... but I've been wrong before.
    
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1.7V is preferred for a fire.

Max temp for that CPU is 55c, it degrades at that temperature. He has probably burnt his thermal paste at his temperatures. It's already too late for his CPU, don't bother telling him.

I got to 4.6GHz a 1.63VCore and I was afraid to run it like that for more than a couple minutes. (1090t)

While you don't want to go over 55c for stability reasons you are completely wrong about that. CPU's don't start degrading till 90c+, it will likely be completely unstable at anything over 65c but you aren't going to get any degradation.

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OP, IMPOSSIBLE!
Phenom x2 shuts off at ~65C - 75C, NO FREAKING WAY he can run it at 105C. You got something wrong.

This is also completely untrue, there is no thermal protection measures built into the chip. Most mobos however have a thermal shutoff which is normally at 90c.
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Intel is not AMD.
    
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While you don't want to go over 55c for stability reasons you are completely wrong about that. CPU's don't start degrading till 90c+, it will likely be completely unstable at anything over 65c but you aren't going to get any degradation.




This is also completely untrue, there is no thermal protection measures built into the chip. Most mobos however have a thermal shutoff which is normally at 90c.

Get a clue of AMD first smile.gif For intel, maybe 90, maybe more. AMD chip is dead at 75, not to mention 100+..
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Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared;12376312 
Intel is not AMD.

Really, I didn't know that! While AMD cpus become unstable at much lower temps the temps where real degradation begins to happen is still around the same.

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Originally Posted by ronnin426850;12376334 
Get a clue of AMD first smile.gif For intel, maybe 90, maybe more. AMD chip is dead at 75, not to mention 100+..

I've used plenty of amd chips, As I said they become very unstable but they are not going to die at that low of a temp. There is a very big difference between the point they become unstable and the point the cpu begins to degrade. AMD chips would be a joke if their chips degraded at that low of a temp. I should also note I am not recommending running at that temp, just saying the chips aren't going to start degrading the instant you go over 60.
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Really, I didn't know that! While AMD cpus become unstable at much lower temps the temps where real degradation begins to happen is still around the same.

I've used plenty of amd chips, As I said they become very unstable but they are not going to die at that low of a temp. There is a very big difference between the point they become unstable and the point the cpu begins to degrade.

Voltage causes more degradation than heat. But heat still causes degradation.
Ive seen a Phenom II degrade at 75C load. And the thing was rock stable and had good voltage.
I also cant say ive really seen any indication that AMD chips suffer from heat instability any more than intel. Heck, Ive seen no heat instability in AMD chips until you get into the same range that burns them up.
And the same goes for intel. They don't get unstable due to heat until they are burning up and degrading.
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I've used plenty of amd chips, As I said they become very unstable but they are not going to die at that low of a temp. There is a very big difference between the point they become unstable and the point the cpu begins to degrade. AMD chips would be a joke if their chips degraded at that low of a temp. I should also note I am not recommending running at that temp, just saying the chips aren't going to start degrading the instant you go over 60.

I saw one catch fire. Like literally saw it.
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he was reading the temps off his socket the temps on his CPU all say 0 even stock clocks i think he killed the temp sensors with the voltage.
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OP, IMPOSSIBLE!
Phenom x2 shuts off at ~65C - 75C, NO FREAKING WAY he can run it at 105C. You got something wrong.

thats Bull i seen the temps myself he took a screenshot and the socket temp said 109C
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