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Well ive said and read enough, come Monday, I think im going to bite the bullet and buy 2 new MCP655 s, black acetal POM Bitspower V2 mod tops, 2 Black sparkle mod kits and mounts, 2 80mm res top kits, and 2 , multi z 200mm reservoirs.

I think its going to cost me about 500$

But im excited nonetheless smile.gif


Is the multi-z 200 a new release, so there's something between the 150 and 250?

I assume if you need to get the 80mm res top kits, that the 200 isn't available as an upgrade kit yet?


Aesthetically, I was bummed when BP went from the nice polished finish to the "abrasive" finish on the D5 mod kits, it just looks cheap to me.


I doubt you'll see better temps from the D5's, versus your 35X's . . . I would not let that expectation be the driving force behind deciding to spend good money to switch to D5's.

In most systems, they deliver nearly identical results.


Now if it's just personal aesthetics, then that trumps logic & reason any day, but why not go with the PWM D5's, since you already have the PWM 35X's . . . . or is that the one you planned on . . The MCP 655 is available as a vario or PWM.



Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 1/4/15 at 5:43am
post #10322 of 22188
*Hugs his 4 year old Bitspower Black Sparkle D5 pump*
post #10323 of 22188
I am still deciding between a pedestal or external water cooling in my S5.I can do 2 360's in the pedestal,2 360's in the pedestal and 1 up top or dual 360/1080 rad externally.I had an external rad hanging off the rear of my 800D and after a while it became an eyesore.I could just mount a Phobya rad box right to the floor beside my desk for quick release on the go,i just feel like i would prefer the look of the pedestal more.If so i would be going with a single bay res from Koolance(DDC Pump) or XSPC which offers a much cheaper solution but a questionable pump.
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Pedestal. External cooling rarely looks good unless it is planned out really well and not just a giant rad hanging off the back of a case.
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post #10325 of 22188
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Pedestal. External cooling rarely looks good unless it is planned out really well and not just a giant rad hanging off the back of a case.

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Pedestal. External cooling rarely looks good unless it is planned out really well and not just a giant rad hanging off the back of a case.

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I feel the same way I just like to keep my options open and try different things.I am still undecided on rads but I like silence so I wanted to stick to a 800-1200rpm fan range without the use of a fan controller.I am waiting on GM200 to make another GPU purchase but I need all components in place before so. I am currently using a 4770K but would like to upgrade to a 4970K for a little extra performance & lower temps.I don't OC much because I never really had a reason to,I use to only run SLI set ups and would see a decent fps jump from a CPU OC.I only like to run 1 powerful card now so I don't foresee a ton of heat being dumped in to the loop but I also like overkill.

Potential rads would be -

XSPC EX360X2
XSPC RX360X2
Alpahcool UT60X2 - Advantage here would be a built in drain plug.
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post #10328 of 22188
Could always go for an EK rad. I've never had issues with junk in them, and they have multiple ports on them too (mine has 5 ports). I believe it's an XTX version.
post #10329 of 22188
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Is the multi-z 200 a new release, so there's something between the 150 and 250?

I assume if you need to get the 80mm res top kits, that the 200 isn't available as an upgrade kit yet?

Aesthetically, I was bummed when BP went from the nice polished finish to the "abrasive" finish on the D5 mod kits, it just looks cheap to me.

I doubt you'll see better temps from the D5's, versus your 35X's . . . I would not let that expectation be the driving force behind deciding to spend good money to switch to D5's.

In most systems, they deliver nearly identical results.

Now if it's just personal aesthetics, then that trumps logic & reason any day, but why not go with the PWM D5's, since you already have the PWM 35X's . . . . or is that the one you planned on . . The MCP 655 is available as a vario or PWM.

Darlene

ya, the 200mm isn't available for the upgrade kits, and as a matter of fact ive had quite a bit of trouble even locating any 200mm reservoirs from Bitspower. I was hoping I could just purchase the individual tubes, but its not available anywhere but Bitspowers actual website which ships from Taiwan. So because of that, I have to order both 2 reservoir kits and 2 top upgrade kits just for the mod top res adaptor and 200mm sized tube.... nearly a couple hundred dollars! I can use the extra parts for another build I have planned however.... Im going to be selling that build afterwards too anyway.

I just feel like with the style and calibur of my loops, they deserve better than a single DDC each.... I mean I rarely ever see DDC pumps in hard loops to begin with, and on top of that, most people whom have upper tier, DDC powered, sophisticated loops usually have configurations with dual serial pump tops. I often see people with 2-4 D5s in their builds.... it just seems really lackluster.

The ergonomics would be much better too... I hate only having 1 outlet on my pump tops. With the D5s, I can have the normal outlet, plus another for my drainage systems/valves, and another that I can hook a temperature plug into.

I didnt really want to pay another 50$ for PWM, and the websites charger 19$ each pump to have the cables sleeved, vs 6$ for the MCP655. I have an Aquaero, and I never really liked using PWM devices with it. The only reason I have MCP35Xs was simply because I purchased them before I got my Aquaero, and they have been a nuisance to get full control out of. It will be much easier and also cleaner cable wise to just use a 4pin molex to 3 pin adapter with the MCP655s
post #10330 of 22188
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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

Is the multi-z 200 a new release, so there's something between the 150 and 250?

I assume if you need to get the 80mm res top kits, that the 200 isn't available as an upgrade kit yet?

Aesthetically, I was bummed when BP went from the nice polished finish to the "abrasive" finish on the D5 mod kits, it just looks cheap to me.

I doubt you'll see better temps from the D5's, versus your 35X's . . . I would not let that expectation be the driving force behind deciding to spend good money to switch to D5's.

In most systems, they deliver nearly identical results.

Now if it's just personal aesthetics, then that trumps logic & reason any day, but why not go with the PWM D5's, since you already have the PWM 35X's . . . . or is that the one you planned on . . The MCP 655 is available as a vario or PWM.

Darlene

ya, the 200mm isn't available for the upgrade kits, and as a matter of fact ive had quite a bit of trouble even locating any 200mm reservoirs from Bitspower. I was hoping I could just purchase the individual tubes, but its not available anywhere but Bitspowers actual website which ships from Taiwan. So because of that, I have to order both 2 reservoir kits and 2 top upgrade kits just for the mod top res adaptor and 200mm sized tube.... nearly a couple hundred dollars! I can use the extra parts for another build I have planned however.... Im going to be selling that build afterwards too anyway.

I just feel like with the style and calibur of my loops, they deserve better than a single DDC each.... I mean I rarely ever see DDC pumps in hard loops to begin with, and on top of that, most people whom have upper tier, DDC powered, sophisticated loops usually have configurations with dual serial pump tops. I often see people with 2-4 D5s in their builds.... it just seems really lackluster.

The ergonomics would be much better too... I hate only having 1 outlet on my pump tops. With the D5s, I can have the normal outlet, plus another for my drainage systems/valves, and another that I can hook a temperature plug into.

I didnt really want to pay another 50$ for PWM, and the websites charger 19$ each pump to have the cables sleeved, vs 6$ for the MCP655. I have an Aquaero, and I never really liked using PWM devices with it. The only reason I have MCP35Xs was simply because I purchased them before I got my Aquaero, and they have been a nuisance to get full control out of. It will be much easier and also cleaner cable wise to just use a 4pin molex to 3 pin adapter with the MCP655s


Interesting, I have never had an issue running 35X's from an Aquaero, but not everyone's experience is the same I guess.

I assume then that you plan to voltage control the D5's from a couple of Aquaero channels? . . . . You realize they don't voltage control very well, and with a rather limited range. . . . about 3200 rpm at ~8.5V is the usual reliable minimum. Pretty much better to use the Vario and set it and forget it.

Actually, since you have the Aquaero, why not use the AC version of the D5 for the Aquaero . . . a bit more expensive, but uber controllable without having to do the cable plug mod to use the PWM D5 with the Aquaero.

I agree that you see more D5 builds, or more dual D5's in the higher tier builds, and there are some ergonomic plusses with additional pump ports.

I've got 3 dual 35X setups going into "Diva's Dementia", and 3 plate exchangers, so it should be a good test for the high end DDC's.


Darlene
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