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Well, I'm certainly not happy. I got the dreaded email and of course the day before it was suppose to ship. So far what kind of delay is this?

I got the same email last Thursday, one day before it was supposed to ship, I was sad. This Monday I got one saying that it had shipped -- 2 days after I got the email, and 1 day(business) after it was supposed to ship.

For a... Due today! It is out for delivery now.

I digress, I hope yours ships soon!
    
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And it's here!!

Sorry for double post.
    
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Dear Caselabs, you gave me an unbreakable zip-tie and this happened

please give me a magical easy way to beat it like you guys always do


Edit: a knife did the job redface.gif
Edited by MakaveliSmalls - 4/3/15 at 9:25am
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Okay, I seek wisdom from the CaseLabs builder demi-Gods. For my Red Dragon build I am doing a dual PSU setup but I would like the secondary PSU both controlled by the Mobo (since it provides all cooling system power) and separately controlled for cooling system functions.

Here's what I got. Please educate me if I am wrong before I shell out money to build this specific power control setup.

Selfish Red Dragon Banner:


Specific Wiring Diagrams (Isolated Dual PSU):


Safety Wiring Diagram; Dual PSU enabled by primary PSU or secondary PSU enabled by stand-alone:


Please slay my design as appropriate. Or validate as appropriate.

Thanks,
-Joe
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post #11795 of 22279
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Originally Posted by AngryMarine View Post

Okay, I seek wisdom from the CaseLabs builder demi-Gods. For my Red Dragon build I am doing a dual PSU setup but I would like the secondary PSU both controlled by the Mobo (since it provides all cooling system power) and separately controlled for cooling system functions.

Here's what I got. Please educate me if I am wrong before I shell out money to build this specific power control setup.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Selfish Red Dragon Banner:


Specific Wiring Diagrams (Isolated Dual PSU):

Safety Wiring Diagram; Dual PSU enabled by primary PSU or secondary PSU enabled by stand-alone:


Please slay my design as appropriate. Or validate as appropriate.

Thanks,
-Joe

I did a lot of testing on this exact thing last year.
Starting around here - you find how I got from idea to working prototype.
Then streamlined further before implement into into the build.

Can you link where you got you info - interesting biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by fast_fate View Post

I did a lot of testing on this exact thing last year.
Starting around here - you find how I got from idea to working prototype.
Then streamlined further before implement into into the build.

Can you link where you got you info - interesting biggrin.gif

I received an academic scholarship to the University of South Florida for Electrical Engineering and Computer Science (IT-Prog) back in the day. Now I'm just the simple Marine that specialized in offensive electronic warfare systems. The schematic and design is my concept based on my background with electrical systems. Originally I wanted to go with a simple diode system but the problem with that is it required a forward bias that will naturally modulate creating a hazardous condition for the secondary PSU. It would modulate between forward and no bias so a simple 4 pin electromagnetic relay seemed the most intelligent alternative than a diode/cap setup. Plus it's cheaper. ;-)

Edit: I have read your work on Salivate for a while; it was a major inspiration for Red Dragon and I hope my cable management does honor to your build. I loved the details you went into regarding the flow rate ambiguity between multiple manufacturers and their claimed accuracy. It is one of the primary reasons while I will not be putting a flow rate system in Red Dragon. I'd rather not deal with the concern of inaccurate meters.

-Joe
Edited by AngryMarine - 4/3/15 at 11:38am
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So, can I assume that my secondary PSU with relay confirms your plan is indeed doable thumb.gif
Reading it back just now - I see it could have been written better...but was well, a work in progress.
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Originally Posted by AngryMarine View Post

Okay, I seek wisdom from the CaseLabs builder demi-Gods. For my Red Dragon build I am doing a dual PSU setup but I would like the secondary PSU both controlled by the Mobo (since it provides all cooling system power) and separately controlled for cooling system functions.

Here's what I got. Please educate me if I am wrong before I shell out money to build this specific power control setup.

Selfish Red Dragon Banner: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Specific Wiring Diagrams (Isolated Dual PSU): Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Safety Wiring Diagram; Dual PSU enabled by primary PSU or secondary PSU enabled by stand-alone: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Please slay my design as appropriate. Or validate as appropriate.

Thanks,
-Joe


The mobo would have to carry twice the usual level of hold on current as usual with2 of the PSU's hold in circuits in parallel during normal operation, but the setup would work fine using the NO contacts of the relay.

What may be confusing is that calling the "power on" wire, which is always the lone green one in the 24 pin connector a 3.3V wire.


The one fly in the ointment, would be that if you turn the aux supply on manually, and then turn the system PSU on via the normal power switch, then you won't be able to turn either one off from the normal power switch until you remember to turn off the aux supply's rocker switch.


As somewhat of a work-around . . . . .

If you used a DPDT relay, then you could use the NC contacts of the other pole, in series with the rocker switch, so that it would be taken out of the circuit when the main PSU powered up.

That would let you power down the main PSU from the normal power switch with the rocker switch still on, but once the main PSU powered down, then the aux PSU would come back on as the rocker switch was once again in its control circuit.


If you don't mind a bit more complexity, then you could use 2 pushbuttons, one momentary on, the other momentary off and a 5V coil DPDT relay and the 5V standby power from either PSU, like an across the line starter, so that you'd effectively have an on button and an off button for the aux PSU, and then use a DPDT 12V relay where you already have K1, whereby you have the connection you show on the NO contacts of one pole, and put the NC contacts of the other pole in series with the "off" button of the aux psu control.

That would give you exactly what you want, both PSU's turn on from the front panel power switch, both PSU's would turn off from the front panel switch, even if you had turned the aux psu on before powering from the front panel, and the pushbuttons would start and stop the aux psu without starting the main psu.
Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 4/3/15 at 12:46pm
post #11799 of 22279
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Originally Posted by AngryMarine View Post

Okay, I seek wisdom from the CaseLabs builder demi-Gods. For my Red Dragon build I am doing a dual PSU setup but I would like the secondary PSU both controlled by the Mobo (since it provides all cooling system power) and separately controlled for cooling system functions.

Here's what I got. Please educate me if I am wrong before I shell out money to build this specific power control setup.

Selfish Red Dragon Banner:


Specific Wiring Diagrams (Isolated Dual PSU):


Safety Wiring Diagram; Dual PSU enabled by primary PSU or secondary PSU enabled by stand-alone:


Please slay my design as appropriate. Or validate as appropriate.

Thanks,
-Joe

Get one of these
http://www.performance-pcs.com/add2psu-power-supply-delay-adapter.html
Then you can set it to run after u shut down computer! Cool off water after running
post #11800 of 22279
Got my SMA8 today...after about 2 hours of putting it together, I got to basically the last part where I put the motherboard tray together....and well...the PCI/back over + chassis holes + motherboard tray are completely, utterly, awfully misaligned...like, it's badddd bad.

I thought I did something wrong, so broke the case down again, and put it together a second time, once again following all instructions to a "T." Same thing....

After about 3 hours of spending time with this SMA8, only to find out the QC was atrocious, and this after the case was delayed already...holy smokes. I really have no idea what to do anymore...guess I paid upgraded shipping for nothing, thinking I would be able to put my build together this weekend; but that's not going to be possible unless I actually have to sand down some parts, drill some holes + live without a removable motherboard tray for something I paid ~$700 for after all the accessories....

Shame on you, CaseLabs...and I was ready to bow down and sing your praises after every step of putting my case together was flawless. Turned out to be a horrendous waste of time...i'll be sending an email to CaseLabs shortly, but wanted to vent here...everyone seems to have had an amazing process from pre-to-post sales on OCN, but my experience from order to delivery has been nothing short of disappointing, and i'm usually really lenient when it comes to stuff like this. Ugh.








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