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Yeah, I don't quite get the parts about shipping being expensive - I could have three s8 tech benches shipped to me... For $90ish USD. This being compared to the r1 ultimate a forum member shipped to me a few months ago in a noticeably smaller and lighter box but it was almost a $45 USD cost to ship.

I'm quite happy for the renegotiated shipping rates, and doubly so it's FedEx (because the local guys here are awesome, and I can call into their 1-800 line to pay taxes over the phone before the package gets to me!)
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Originally Posted by Goggle Eye View Post

Some members in these forums paid international shipping and import tax. CaseLabs has worked out a discount with Fed-X for international shipping. Has CaseLabs gone to bat for international consumers, yes they have and thank you Caselabs for the savings. Frankly I am fed up with reading about shipping cost and import tax. Reminds me of a dog setting on a nail on the front porch howling because it hurts and sets there and howls. Does not matter if your pockets are deep or not. Set a goal, a date to purchase, eat beans, get a second, third or fourth job, read the build logs daily, stay focused on the dream and stay positive, save the pennies called delayed gratification and it is a great feeling when the goal is accomplished.

Ask your self if you would purchase a product from a thief? That is exactly what TT did they stole the product. Try to justify it any way you want but it is stolen property period or any other product or company that makes copies. It is stolen property. You can take a pig and dress a pig up any way you want it is still a pig.

Yep, I make very little money and it took me about 8-9 months to save for my first caselabs case, if it's important to you you can make it happen.
Or you can be lazy and have poor integrity and buy stolen or knockoff products.
     
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#sueTT
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Swiftech is working with them for the blocks and the QDs, so that's not an issue.

I don't really know how to express my personal thoughts so perhaps I should ask you all to excuse me for this potentially incoherent thought piece put to text. As some of you know I recently started a small blog/website to review stuff that interested me, and a lot of companies have been great in supporting it. Thermaltake has been one of them, with their Riing 12 LED fans being the products they had sent. In fact, it was Shannon himself who had sent those my way and was very genuinely interested in my findings. I even asked him about the similarities in the fan design and packaging to the Corsair SP120 and the Antec True Quiet/UFO models. I knew already that all 3 (and more out there) are based off the same Hong Sheng fan (as with cases, there are 3-4 companies that make all the fans for everyone who isn't a cooling only brand like Blacknoise, Noctua etc) and he was very open about it. The packaging was an unfortunate accident (confirmed via TT competitors also) but a result of a decision made by the manufacturing company. There were also a lot of small changes in the 3 products to where I was satisfied enough to let it slide.

While this was going on, I was having fun at TT's expense about their waterblocks for the Asus 9x0 Strix cards and the passive VRM cooling. This was also when I noticed all the similarities between all the various watercooling products and started contacting the various companies to see if they were working with TT. Swiftech were the only ones to confirm they were indeed working with TT and hence the W2 CPU block based off the Apogee XL and the quick disconnects. The rest either did not respond back or did so with wording I can't repeat on a public forum. You can see examples of these comparisons on ER, OC3D, Dazmode and more. Not everything in the media about this is factually correct, and some did not bother doing much research. The end result of these accusations has been a ~80-20 split of the public in favor of Caselabs across the various forums and online channels I frequent and won't change anything.

Thermaltake has no legal obligation to do anything sadly, and judging from everything I have seen they don't mean to do anything about this but go along with their plans. Even if the audience buying this has been reduced by half, they will still be happy as such things will cool down with time. This is what irks me- people will naturally still buy it if priced well, but please don't act about like they did nothing wrong. If they really did nothing wrong, they should invite 3rd party independent media personnel to review their cases, preferably with Caselabs having sent one of their cases to go with it. Ditto with Fractal and whoever have a beef. There will be changes, there will be similarities. The findings then go to the involved parties and they get to make a public statement accordingly. We all know this is not going to happen unless someone buys the cases separately and is invested enough. We also know, from the TT Core X Owner's Club here, that the owners of the cases are not exactly pleased with the post-purchase support. This echoes my own personal experiences over the years also- little as they may be.

This is where Caselabs has won me for life. I made a post here about how the triple 180mm radiator mounts were a pain to use with the pedestal of my Magnum TX10-D case. I sent an email to Jim and KC asking if I can cut the edges of the pedestal top and bottom pieces without affecting case strength, and if they had any suggestions otherwise that I was overlooking. What you guys don't know is that KC and the rest of CaseLabs are working on making two custom pieces so these rad mounts will work as intended. They also took the accessory off the website so others don't have the same issue. You could argue that this was just righting their own wrong but I have been way too jaded by this industry already and know how sparse even something like that is. This is why I am on Caselabs' side now till proven otherwise. Thermaltake have had the opportunity to do otherwise but so far their response has not been enough. If anything, that had irked people even more. Hopefully they spend more time on the cases themselves than figuring out how to sell these as different versions.. hopefully!
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@geggeg You're right on with way CaseLabs will work with us CL customers! No other company, except maybe Swiftech, will work out problems with us/ Take suggestions, and be here on OCN to give us CL people support on our issues. They even watch our builds and help or give us praise...
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Don't forget the fact they'll constant reply to the same questions that tend to get asked 3-5 times a week... In the exact same professional manner they always have... Not to mention the fact they don't seem to have a problem with people going on and on about how they'd love to get a case but keep spending their money elsewhere... I still plan on getting those various cases! ....Just too much else going on atm, but man do I ever want one.

EDIT: So much so that I've been seriously contemplating the idea of a second job so such can be afforded ^_^;;;;
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Well, you're mostly right . . . .

But if you put lipstick on it, it can also be your girlfriend . . .

D.

That is a Hoot. lachen.gif have night mares the rest of my life "pigs with lip stick".
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Don't forget the fact they'll constant reply to the same questions that tend to get asked 3-5 times a week... In the exact same professional manner they always have... Not to mention the fact they don't seem to have a problem with people going on and on about how they'd love to get a case but keep spending their money elsewhere... I still plan on getting those various cases! ....Just too much else going on atm, but man do I ever want one.

One of the differences between a want to be company and a company that is top shelf not only produce a high quality product backs up the product with excellent services.

EDIT: So much so that I've been seriously contemplating the idea of a second job so such can be afforded ^_^;;;;

thumb.gif Hope for you that day comes to you sooner than expected.
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@geggeg You're right on with way CaseLabs will work with us CL customers! No other company, except maybe Swiftech, will work out problems with us/ Take suggestions, and be here on OCN to give us CL people support on our issues. They even watch our builds and help or give us praise...
i would like to throw CM in as well, they have done a very good job !~
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So Kia should make an exact copy of a Ferrari so I could afford one? No..


Sure, im not stopping them. Would i buy one? Nope. Would i think of Kia less as a manufacturer? Absolutely.


Anyways, finally add me to the owners list. This thing is an absolute joy to put together. Even better when you got extra parts along with it thumb.gif



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To get back to the more usual CL thread sort of discussion, . . . .

Having cancelled my X9 snow edition order when all this mess came out, I'm now at a loss for what to replace it with . . .

Was looking at the S8, since I want a horizontal motherboard build this time, but it's limited to 360 sized rads, even a ped just allows more 360's . . .

I was looking at taking the 840 copper fin AMS rads from the Stretch build, and making them back to 420's, which would look really sweet in a white stretched cube case.

I'm temped to do a stretch S8 build with enough length for the 420s in front of the PSU's along the sides and window-ettes in front of the 420's on the top.


Does anyone have any alternative ideas, thought, or suggestions . . .


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