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Think you would be better off sending them a mail, do to the whole "cant do stuff that you profit from" thing OCN seems to have implemented.

Or simply ask it in the CL forum here : http://www.overclock.net/f/380/case-labs thumb.gif

I agree with you that in the owners club it could be wrongfully interpreted but in the manufacturer forum it's fine.
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post #14952 of 22194
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It is possible, the only question would be wheter or not you can do it would getting the fan spacing in front.
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It is possible, the only question would be wheter or not you can do it would getting the fan spacing in front.

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Originally Posted by JourneymanMike View Post

Yes there is...

Just mount the rad to the back of the 120.3 flex bay rad mount, then mount the fans on the back of the rad...

Put it in your case and secure it with the thumb screws from the front

Really simple, just make sure you have enough room in the case for everything

Piece of cake thumb.gif
thanks guys
post #14953 of 22194
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Thanks for the link, but, what we're discussing is the watts of heat to disburse for water cooling your components...


Right, if you can calculate how much wattage your cpu/gpus draw it should give you the wattage of heat that needs to be dissipated. Unless I'm completely confused.
post #14954 of 22194
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Didn't you mean a high static pressure fan? biggrin.gif You can have the fastest fan in the world and it will not perform as well as a fan designed for radiators.

And that would be a high static pressure fan designed for rads...

Sorry, I don't quite understand engineering, 100 Watts? headscratch.gif

I guess I have a lot to learn! evo.gif
Higher RPM usually means higher static pressure. At least that seems to be the case for most fans, but guess it depend on the design of the fan.


I know that most people say 1 fan space per component, but a 100 watt GPU needs less cooling then a 200 watt GPU.
Which is why I'm starting to recommend watt per fan space, instead of component per fan space.

No and no.

1 sp is a poor spec to go from you want a pq chart -on mobile someone please post the Martin's liquid lab article
2 considering I can cool a 8350 at 4.7+ (300+ watts ) yeah no. If you look at most high end heat sinks they are 120 mm rads. They use a highly inefficient air. Water absorbs more heat and the rads we use dump it into the air with more surface space ie more effectively.

1 rad per component plus 1 is fine. This means cpu and gpu in cfx ( 2gpus ) would be 3 components so 3+1 is 4 total.

That is min. I well believe in more. But you don't need more to be ok.

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Mean that if would be 4 fan spaces for 3 components, while my recommendation puts it at 7 fan spaces, as those 3 components has about 650 watt worth of heat.
Thats quite a difference in fan space.


I think he basically means 2 fan spaces per component

No he means (number of components) plus 1.

Please note mobo vrms dram do not count. Just CPU's and gpu's in 99%of all cases
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Didn't you mean a high static pressure fan? biggrin.gif You can have the fastest fan in the world and it will not perform as well as a fan designed for radiators.

And that would be a high static pressure fan designed for rads...

Sorry, I don't quite understand engineering, 100 Watts? headscratch.gif

I guess I have a lot to learn! evo.gif
Higher RPM usually means higher static pressure. At least that seems to be the case for most fans, but guess it depend on the design of the fan.


I know that most people say 1 fan space per component, but a 100 watt GPU needs less cooling then a 200 watt GPU.
Which is why I'm starting to recommend watt per fan space, instead of component per fan space.

No and no.

1 sp is a poor spec to go from you want a pq chart -on mobile someone please post the Martin's liquid lab article
2 considering I can cool a 8350 at 4.7+ (300+ watts ) yeah no. If you look at most high end heat sinks they are 120 mm rads. They use a highly inefficient air. Water absorbs more heat and the rads we use dump it into the air with more surface space ie more effectively.

1 rad per component plus 1 is fine. This means cpu and gpu in cfx ( 2gpus ) would be 3 components so 3+1 is 4 total.

That is min. I well believe in more. But you don't need more to be ok.

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Mean that if would be 4 fan spaces for 3 components, while my recommendation puts it at 7 fan spaces, as those 3 components has about 650 watt worth of heat.
Thats quite a difference in fan space.


I think he basically means 2 fan spaces per component

No he means (number of components) plus 1.

Please note mobo vrms dram do not count. Just CPU's and gpu's in 99%of all cases

Thanks for interpreting what I said, I knew somebody finally would, get my simple explanation, that is...

I thought I had been basic enough... thinking.gif

And for the extra info +1 REP thumb.gif
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500 RPM is waisted, as that is barly better then passive. Most people wont hear a 1000-1500 RPM fan, as long as it got good quality.
500-600 RPM fan is an order of magnitude better than passive cooling.

Also, depending on how good your hearing is, anything above is easily audible.
post #14957 of 22194
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1 rad per component plus 1 is fine. This means cpu and gpu in cfx ( 2gpus ) would be 3 components so 3+1 is 4 total.

That is min. I well believe in more. But you don't need more to be ok.
The reason I recommend more is because then the fans mather less and you can also get a more quiet build, but yeah minimum can work if you choose the right parts.
post #14958 of 22194
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500-600 RPM fan is an order of magnitude better than passive cooling.

Also, depending on how good your hearing is, anything above is easily audible.
Guess it depends on the level of background noice how easy it is to hear the fans.
post #14959 of 22194
Fan duct in place, again sorry for the crappy picture, i really need to buy a decent camera in a near future..


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This is result from a Thermalbench review, cooling i7 4770k at 4.6 GHz and EVGA GTX 780 Ti Classified KPE, overall system consumption was 650w




So roughly if I have two 560 rads I will get the same 12C delta with fans on 400 RPM. But this is 8 140mm sections per 2 components.
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