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I setup mine with 360 front intake and rear/480 out and run the fans in the front faster so that I have a positive air pressure. All the dust goes to the front with my double filters and that's what I clean. The inside of my case does not need any cleaning at all. I wanted the 480 to be exhaust also because pushing air downward would cause the fans to work harder since hot air rises.

I don't know what everyone else's reasoning for doing that config though.



While we're all taught early on that "hot air rises", the operative word there is "hot".

With the comparatively low delta t between ambient air and internal case air, the force of convection is virtually dismissible.. . . . even the crappiest fans can redirect the airflow with little effort

From a performance perspective, having the coldest air possible, passing thru the largest rad(s), is going to have the most positive effect on temps.

Any rad you have as exhaust is working to partially neutralize the intakes.

Running rads as exhausts over intakes is counterproductive . . . .

If you have so many intakes, and such a tight case, that you could conceivable stall the airflow thru the case, you could benefit from more exhaust fans perhaps, but not with rads on them.
Edited by IT Diva - 8/22/15 at 5:07am
post #15502 of 22329
Hi, tell me, where else you can buy Caselabs Merlin SM5 or who can sell ?
post #15503 of 22329
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Originally Posted by Fandorin View Post

Hi, tell me, where else you can buy Caselabs Merlin SM5 or who can sell ?


You can also order them from Performance-pcs.com


But a note on that, I think they just order it for you from CaseLabs and you still get to wait for it to be built by them. I don't think that performance just has the cases sitting on their shelves waiting to be purchases.


I also think that CaseLabs has been working to set up distribution points over seas as well, I think they have a deal with someone in Australia and maybe somewhere else to, you might want to email them:

cs@caselabs.net
Edited by WeirdHarold - 8/22/15 at 11:54am
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Sorry but the SM5 was discontinued last year. If you want Micro ATX you can go S5, or go ATX tower with the SM8.
post #15505 of 22329
I know that the SM5 longer produce frown.gif S5 I do not like , and SM8 large. analogue my m10. Nova x5 still unknown when will appear , I think less SM5
post #15506 of 22329
So I've got a question, I'm not sure what I need to get. I've got a Mercury S8, and currently have a XSPC Photon D5 170ml tube rez/pump combo in my build, it's sitting on the crossplate in front of the window on the left hand side. Sitting there being held in place by the plastic tubing running to and from it, but it looks mad ghetto and is also not stable. I'd like to mount it so it's visible in the window there, but actually mounted and not ghetto. Any suggestions on accessories?
    
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Originally Posted by IT Diva View Post

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Originally Posted by Artah View Post

I setup mine with 360 front intake and rear/480 out and run the fans in the front faster so that I have a positive air pressure. All the dust goes to the front with my double filters and that's what I clean. The inside of my case does not need any cleaning at all. I wanted the 480 to be exhaust also because pushing air downward would cause the fans to work harder since hot air rises.

I don't know what everyone else's reasoning for doing that config though.



While we're all taught early on that "hot air rises", the operative word there is "hot".

With the comparatively low delta t between ambient air and internal case air, the force of convection is virtually dismissible.. . . . even the crappiest fans can redirect the airflow with little effort

From a performance perspective, having the coldest air possible, passing thru the largest rad(s), is going to have the most positive effect on temps.

Any rad you have as exhaust is working to partially neutralize the intakes.

Running rads as exhausts over intakes is counterproductive . . . .

If you have so many intakes, and such a tight case, that you could conceivable stall the airflow thru the case, you could benefit from more exhaust fans perhaps, but not with rads on them.
( not directed to it diva ! )
i can actually argue through physics that it ( hot air ) doesnt
but arguments aside( @Artah ) in a PC case hot air DOES NOT RISE unless you run a completely passive system.

if you dont run a 100% passive system then hot air will ONLY go where you want it to !~

if hot air ever rises in your pc case, you have poor airflow and need to work on the AIR flow !
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Hey guys, Do you recommend I order all my watercooling parts now, or wait until I order my SMA8, receive it, and then order the watercooling parts? thinking.gif My only problem with waiting is that there might be some items that will go out of stock, and I don't want to keep paying shipping for each item that I would need to get frown.gif
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BOTH !~
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The thing is I won't be ordering the case until next month (or after that), and all the watercooling parts I need are in stock right now, so I figured now is the perfect time to order them, however I am afraid of receiving an item that is DOA.
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