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Are you sure on that length? I have Hardware labs SR2 multi ports and those screws are 28mm. They are too short so I have some 30mm and 35mm ones coming.

I have the same problem - the screws are too short. Did you order the screws from HWL? I checked their site and all I see under Products are the radiators.
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Been trying to install my radiators(HardwareLabs GTS) on the top plate, However the screws are just long enough to reach the plate(Fan -> Plate -> Radiator). I believe the screws are about 35mm. What would be the ideal size to get so it could reach the radiator. I'm guessing around 40mm? I can't seem to find anything around the 39mm to 38mm range.

Would these work: http://www.amazon.com/Alloy-Steel-Socket-Screws-Black/dp/B00W97R5KU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456347921&sr=8-1&keywords=M3+x+40mm+Screw

Did you get these and did they work? I am in the same boat. Also, for some reason, I thought the screws were M4. I could be wrong though.
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Nah. Looks way too much like an Apple product. We create our own designs and will continue to innovate. Gemini will bring lots of new things as well as others families/cases after it.

The problem with a round design like that is the need for limited or proprietary hardware. We have to keep with industry standards to ensure proper fitment with the diverse amounts of watercooling and other hardware on the market.

Could make something look more industrial/50 Gal drum like lol

     
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I have the same problem - the screws are too short. Did you order the screws from HWL? I checked their site and all I see under Products are the radiators.

Let me just quote myself ...
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Why some fans and radiator screws don't mix

My radiators (Hardware Labs Black Ice SR2 120.3 Multiport) come with two sets of a dozen screws. The long ones are 28mm long. Not long enough for my Cryorig fans. Just long enough if I was using Noctua ... which I'm not. I've ordered some M4 screws from amazon ...

- 18-8 Stainless Steel Pan Head Machine Screw, Black Oxide Finish, M4, 35 mm Length (Pack of 50)
- 18-8 Stainless Steel Pan Head Machine Screw, Black Oxide Finish, M4, 30 mm Length (Pack of 50)

The 30mm ones should be long enough for the Fan / Gasket / Radiator side while the 35mm ones should be long enough for the Fans / Gasket / Radiator Mount / Gasket / Radiator side. And I am getting 50 of each ... for about $14. Not bad. Arrive on Wednesday ... same day as the CaseLabs Pedestal is due.

They work perfectly ... as long as you don't screw them into the fins like a rookie.
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Let me just quote myself ...
They work perfectly ... as long as you don't screw them into the fins like a rookie.

Not completely accurate IMO unless radiator construction has significantly changed recently. The cooling fins only serve to dissipate heat. Being bent or damaged by the screw actually wouldn't cause any leaks. It might look bad, but the overall harm to cooling is rather minimal. Puncturing the thin narrow passageways that the coolant is passing through that the cooling fins are connected to on the other hand could be catastrophic. Personally, what I used to do is slide a credit card under the hole that I am screwing the mounting screw through the fan to pretend mount it in order to see how much clearance is available before the tip hits the card which protects it from puncturing anything. After that, I will use either a shorter screw or use washers to act as spacers. I used to actually order black screws specifically to mount different type fans to radiators. tongue.gif
Edited by OC'ing Noob - 2/27/16 at 9:42pm
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Did you get these and did they work? I am in the same boat. Also, for some reason, I thought the screws were M4. I could be wrong though.

I got 35mm and they were a bit big and 30mm were to small. So I put a washer on them and fans are nice a tight.

These are the ones I Bought: https://modmymods.com/m4-0-x-35mm-black-screws-pm4x35.html

*note* I actually used some O-Rings instead from Lowes. Since it was cheaper compared to washers which were 1.37 per washer.


Edited by Revan654 - 2/27/16 at 9:46pm
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Let me just quote myself ...
They work perfectly ... as long as you don't screw them into the fins like a rookie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan654 View Post

I got 35mm and they were a bit big and 30mm were to small. So I put a washer on them and fans are nice a tight.

These are the ones I Bought: https://modmymods.com/m4-0-x-35mm-black-screws-pm4x35.html

*note* I actually used some O-Rings instead from Lowes. Since it was cheaper compared to washers which were 1.37 per washer.


Thanks. Just what I needed to know. I will check Lowes and if no luck order online.

Mine are 28mm, so I will most likely have to do the same thing; although I may use the radiator gasket to take up some slack and rubber o-rings (see below). However, in theory, the 30mm should work.

Fan = 25mm
Caselab fan bracket = 1.5mm

25+1.5=26.5mm

30-26.5=3.5mm (probably not enough to grab the threads on the radiator)

480mm Radiator Gasket
560mm Radiator Gasket
Anti-vibration O-rings
Edited by Methodical - 2/28/16 at 8:39am
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Nah. Looks way too much like an Apple product. We create our own designs and will continue to innovate. Gemini will bring lots of new things as well as others families/cases after it.

The problem with a round design like that is the need for limited or proprietary hardware. We have to keep with industry standards to ensure proper fitment with the diverse amounts of watercooling and other hardware on the market.

STOP SAYING GEMINI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant take it anymore!!!
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nah he is right, gemini will be awesome, ..... in 2034 ..... when it is released
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I will use either a shorter screw or use washers to act as spacers. I used to actually order black screws specifically to mount different type fans to radiators. tongue.gif
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*note* I actually used some O-Rings instead from Lowes.

Excellent ... some nice tips there!
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STOP SAYING GEMINI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant take it anymore!!!

Too funny!
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